Pour yourself some peppermint schnapps and make sure everyone has brown gloves because today we are talking about Chris Smith's wonderful documentary from 1999, American Movie. Mark Borchardt wants to make movies, and nothing will stop him. We talk about feeling stuck, late night talk shows, walking the line between honesty and mockery, relating to creative people, Uncle Bill and the amazing Mike Schank.

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