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Independence alone wasn’t enough. For Thomas Paine, the Revolutionary War was worth the fight only if independence led to a new kind of government and polity—one in which, as he famously wrote, “the LAW IS KING.”
In January 1776—just six months before the Declaration of Independence—General George Washington and his officers were still toasting King George III. Paine’s Common Sense shattered any lingering attachment to the King, to Parliament, and to the idea of the British constitution itself. His arguments were so persuasive that Washington ordered Paine’s writing to distributed among his troops before major engagements, including the famous Delaware crossing that led to victory at the Battle of Trenton.
And yet, despite Paine’s service to the cause, he would later feel betrayed by Washington as he languished in a French prison, awaiting execution.
In Part II of my conversation with Prof. Harvey Kaye, we trace Paine’s influence from Washington, Adams, and Jefferson to Lincoln, FDR, Barry Goldwater, Reagan, and Obama. This is the story of how Paine’s passion and persuasive vision helped galvanize a people into founding a new nation—and the darker story of why generations of America’s elite came to loathe him and diminish his contributions to the American cause.
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🚩About My 203rd Guest:
Dr. Harvey Kaye is Professor Emeritus of Democracy and Justice Studies at the University of Wisconsin—Green Bay. His area of interest and expertise is American Democracy: History, Memory, Politics, Radicals, and Ideas.
Prof. Kaye is a nationally recognized historian and an award-winning author of many books, including the following:
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Before "Common Sense" shook the Atlantic world, Thomas Paine lived a tumultuous life of struggle, failure, and radical discovery. He arrived in America unknown, ill, and nearly broken. Within a year, Paine would transform a rebellion for right to a revolution for independence.
►In this conversation, Professor Harvey J. Kaye traces Paine’s journey from working-class England to revolutionary America — and the ideas that transformed him into the most influential political writer of the age.
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Dr. Harvey Kaye is Professor Emeritus of Democracy and Justice Studies at the University of Wisconsin—Green Bay. His area of interest and expertise is American Democracy: History, Memory, Politics, Radicals, and Ideas.
Prof. Kaye is a nationally recognized historian and an award-winning author of many books, including the following:
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In 1775, Concord was not a quiet rural town waiting for history to arrive. It was an important Massachusetts community already under strain—shaped by class divisions, religious tensions, and an eighteenth-century “affordability crisis” that had been building for years before "the shot heard 'round the world".
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►In this interview, Dr. Robert Gross examines Concord, Massachusetts, in the lead-up to the Battles of Lexington and Concord on April 19, 1775. As you will see in these discussions, the town was an important colonial town teetering between radical and conservative values until the British Imperial government effectively propelled Concord toward Revolution.
🚩About My 202nd Guest:
Dr. Robert A. Gross is Professor Emeritus of American History at the University of Connecticut (UConn). His scholarship focuses on U.S. social and cultural history from 1750 to 1850, with particular attention to the American Revolution, Transcendentalism, and New England history.
Dr. Gross is the recipient of various national awards, including fellowships from the Guggenheim, Howard, and Rockefeller Foundations, the National Endowment for the Humanities, and the American Antiquarian Society. Dr. Gross is the author of several influential works, including:
He joins us from Concord, Massachusetts—the central setting of this interview—which examines the town’s social and political tensions before the Revolution, as well as events in Lexington and western Massachusetts on the eve of April 19, 1775.
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00:00 Select Highlights
01:57 Guest Introduction
03:25 Who were the Minutemen?
08:01 A Remarkable Tension
11:45 Concord not volunteering
15:13 Minutemen, Militia or Both?
17:10 Concord Before the Revolution
23:37 Road to April 19, 1775
27:25 Questioning Concord's Centrality
37:13 “No concord in Concord”
40:02 18th Century Affordability Crisis
45:13 Rebellion In Concord
52:58 Concord— an important town
58:39 Popular Radicalism
1:02:43 Radical vs. Conservative
1:04:44 A Rude Awakening!
1:08:40 Concord Uniting Against the British
1:13:58 Rebellion or Revolution
1:15:29 Intellectual Capital of the New Nation
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The East India Company’s trade monopoly angered American colonists by undercutting their smuggling of Chinese goods and keeping prices high. This helped push Americans toward revolution — and it wasn’t just the Boston Tea Party. Patriots held Tea Parties up and down the colonies to challenge British tariffs and control. And it wasn’t only about tea: the consumer revolution had colonists hungry for porcelain, silk, nankeens, fine furniture, and countless other goods from China.
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►In this interview, Dr. Dael Norwood explains how America’s demand for Chinese products shaped commerce, politics, and the young nation’s identity — and how global trade fueled the path to revolution.
🚩About My 200th Guest:
Dr. Dael Norwood is a professor in the History Department of the University of Delaware, a historian of nineteenth-century America specializing on the global dimensions of U.S. politics and economics. He is particularly interested in the political economy of commerce: how the ideas and practices of international exchange have affected Americans’ relations with other powers, as well as their dealings with each other.
He has published extensively on these subjects, including the following book, which we discuss in this interview: "Trading in Freedom: How Trade with China Defined Early America"
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3:51 Thinking About China in Colonial America
06:52 Consumer Revolution in American Colonies
09:12 High-Level Consumer Goods
11:44 "Colonists are inveterate smugglers."
13:50 Top American Imports
14:25 “The really nice stuff never really gets to North America.”
15:23 How Colonists Purchased Chinese Goods
21:28 Franklin’s Plans To Develop Chinese Products in America
23:20 Europeans & Americans Imitating China
25:08 China Trade and the American Revolution
28:05 The East India Company and Colonial Grievances
32:08 Corruption & Tyranny
33:21 A New Kind of Slavery
34:16 Beyond Boston: Other Colonial Tea Parties
37:04 The Intolerable Acts
40:22 Treaty of Paris
40:59 Out Competing Britain in China Trade
43:40 What American Shipped to China in the 1780s
44:19 Silver Dollars to China
48:15 Could the U.S. Afford Trade With China?
51:52 How Americans Financed Trade With China
53:29 Cabotage and Mechanics of American Trade China
57:21 Politicians vs. Merchants - American Vision of China Trade
58:26 Drugs & China Trade
59:18 Dr. Norwood's Story of Researching China Trade
1:02:17 "China is always there!"
1:03:21 A BIG DEAL
1:04:22 From China Trade to Constitution
1:05:28 Just One Point
1:07:46 "Yankee Doodle"
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Was the Boston Massacre inevitable? For its time, was it truly a “massacre”?
And how much do we really know about that night—and how much comes from the stories people chose to share?
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► In this interview, historian Dr. Serena Zabin reconsiders March 5, 1770—looking beyond propaganda to the people, choices, and social networks that shaped revolutionary action in the dark hours after the shooting and transformed how colonists understood their place within the British imperial family—setting the stage for revolution.
🚩About My 199th Guest:
Dr. Serena Zabin is a professor of history and the Liberal Arts at Carleton College. She is the Vice President of the Teaching Division of American Historical Association, a distinguished fellow in Early American History at the Huntington Library for 2024-25, and a former president of Society for Historians of the Early American Republic.
Her research focuses on Early America and Public History, subjects about which he has published extensively, including the following books:
1. "Dangerous Economies: Status and Commerce in Imperial New York",
2. "The New York Conspiracy Trials of 1741: Daniel Horsmanden's "Journal of the Proceedings" with Related Documents", and
3. "The Boston Massacre: A Family History", which received the 2024 George Washington Book Prize and is the focus of this interview.
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03:48 March 5, 1770: What Happened?
08:49 Was It Really a “Massacre”?
10:10 Did Soldiers and Bostonians Know Each Other?
11:27 Did Anyone Expect Violence?
16:44 Paul Revere’s Image of the Massacre
21:43 Boston Massacre Conspiracy Theories
22:53 What Revere Exaggerated—or Invented
24:33 What Can We Really Know?
27:38 Revere's Motivation
30:19 The Trial: Politics or Performance?
31:18 The Boston Massacre on Trial
32:23 John Adams: Ethics or Politics?
34:18 Soldiers’ Self-Defense Explained
35:15 Adams and the Soldiers’ Defense
38:31 The Massacre as Family History
40:34 British Living Among Bostonians
44:14 Daily Life Before the “Massacre”
46:53 A Broken Imperial Family?
48:56 A Bad Divorce
53:10 Dr. Zabin and Ken Burns’ "The American Revolution"
55:22 "Just One Point"
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This interview with Dr. Serena Zabin examines the Boston Massacre—the social developments and everyday challenges faced by Bostonians and British residents that led to March 5, 1770, what happened that night, and, equally important, what followed, including Paul Revere’s propaganda and John Adams’s defense of the British soldiers.
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What role did Enlightenment ideas and Thomas Paine’s concept of common sense play in shaping the American Revolution? In this conversation, Dr. Sophia Rosenfeld explores how revolutionary leaders digested and adapted European intellectual currents, and how ordinary people were imagined as capable of participating in a new kind of politics. Discover the ideas that sparked change and still influence us today.
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🚩About My 198th Guest:
Dr. Sophia Rosenfeld is a professor of history and former chair of the Department of History at the University of Pennsylvania, where she teaches European and American intellectual and cultural history with a special emphasis on the Enlightenment, the trans-Atlantic Age of Revolutions, and the legacy of the eighteenth century for modern democracy. Her writings and works include the following books:
1) "The Age of Choice: A History of Freedom in the Modern World"
2) "A Revolution in Language: The Problem of Signs in Late Eighteenth-Century France"
3) "Common Sense: A Political History "
4) "Democracy and Truth: A Short History"
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02:09 Interview Introduction
03:30 Defining Enlightenment
04:33 Revolution of minds for whom?
08:41 For the Elite-or By the Elite?
12:45 One or many Enlightenments?
14:15 Reason or Enlightenment?
16:12 When was Enlightenment?
18:56 Secular or religious?
20:27 Revolution or Enlightenment?
22:28 American Revolution & Enlightenment
24:40 Was it called Enlightenment in 1700s?
27:43 “Common Sense: A Political History”
32:44 Thomas Paine & 'common sense'
35:05 'common sense' against common people
38:23 'common sense' for Revolution
39:25 'common sense' afterlife
42:20 The “Naïve” Truth-Teller
43:54 The "Age of Choice"
45:31 Revolution & Making Choices
48:21 Americans now vs. during American Revolution
51:17 Why risk a revolution?
52:22 Just One Point
53:38 Thinking about thinking
56:49 Closing & "Yankee Doodle"
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This interview with Dr. Rosenfeld is about the Age of Enlightenment (aka Age of Revolutions) and its impact on the American Revolution.
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🖼️ Explore AAR’s Visual Index of the American Revolution☑️How much do you really know about the American Revolution? Quiz your knowledge▶️In Analyzing American Revolution (AAR), more than 30 scholars tell the story of the American Revolution from 30 different perspectives. AAR is a special series production of the History Behind News program - now in its 5th season, where Adel Aali - host and producer, has interviewed 196 scholars (and counting) about world history and, importantly, the history of our own country. So Adel has substantial experience in interviewing scholars and analyzing history. And he now brings that experience to analyze the history of the American Revolution with scholars who have spent decades researching subjects relating to the Revolutionary War and the American Revolution.
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(00:00) opening music: U.S. Army Band
(00:19) What is a revolution?
(01:00) Thomas Paine - disliked by Founders?
(01:13) French Alliance - An Irony?
(02:29) British perspective - Russians or Hessians are coming?
(03:20) Hyder Ali and the American Revolution
(03:29) China - Europeans have nothing to offer!
(03:53) Spain - What happened in Pensacola?
(04:14) A civil war?
(04:27) Adel Aali - Experienced Analysis of History with scholars
(05:58) What is history? Storytelling vs. Analysis.
(06:33) Lexington & Concord
(07:17) Subject covered in this podcast series
(07:35) Where to get Analyzing American Revolution
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