If you have ever felt crushed by shame or struggled to accept God’s unconditional love, THIS is the episode for you. Hang out as Steve and the gang discuss the difference between guilt and shame with counselor and author Andrew Bauman. Andrew’s new book is called Stumbling toward Wholeness: How the Love of God Changes Us. 

Andrew J. Bauman is a licensed mental health counselor. He holds a master of arts in counseling psychology from The Seattle School of Theology & Psychology and is currently working on his doctorate. He and his wife, Christy, run Collective Hope Counseling in Seattle, Washington. He’s written and co-written three books.