Today our hosts are joined again by Andy Pitcher! Longtime listeners may remember his first appearance discussing the DL-4, and today he returns to discuss his second place object: The Mutt (How To Skateboard And Not Kill Yourself) by Rodney Mullen and Sean Mortimer. They talk about its influence in Andy's adolescence and the new lessons it holds in adult life, many of which manifest in his recent debut solo album, Dot. A number of topics both musical and personal appear along the way, both very heavy and very light - much like the album itself.

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