This episode is the second part in a two-part series with Andy Polaine, the regional APAC design director for Fjord and Simon McIntyre who is the Associate Dean of Education in UNSW, formally COFA, the College of Fine Art and Design.

In the first part, we spoke about the problems faced in education and spoke about some of the origins of these problems. This episode builds on that but goes deeper into the work that UNSW is undertaking about redesigning the university with a focus on enabling a culture that will better place their students for the future.

What's so good about this combination of Andy and Simon is not only have they worked together before but is the relationship between Andy's service design history and his academic past in teaching in Europe. Together with Simon, they approach the subject of the future of education with pragmatism.

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