I speak to Angela about rootlessness as the price of empire, woke NGOs as the enforcers of global capital, hyperreal online spaces and the people that populate them, boring local politics vs. the dopamine rush of the 24/7 kaleidoscope of U.S. politics, having skin in the game of politics and what happens if you don't, the machinations of power at a global level, and the fertility crisis.

Angela Nagle is the author of "Kill All Normies" and a writer for American Affairs and Unherd.