Dennis visits the downtown LA loft apartment of Jeffrey Vail to talk about his job as Forest Supervisor of Angeles National Forest and San Gabriel Mountains National Monument. Jeffrey talks about what it's like to oversea over 300 employees and 700,000 acres, his favorite photo op in the forest, the rumored rivalry between Smokey the Bear and Woodsy Owl and that he had a moment with a deer that made him feel like a certain British dame (see title). He also discusses working with Hollywood on having film and TV projects shot in the forest, the danger of wildfires, being openly gay in the Forest Service and why he came out to his staff on his very first day. Other topics include: his favorite waste of time, that time he almost got trampled by an elephant, the belt buckle he cherishes, the mantra he took from "Sunday in the Park with George" and the NBA superstar he sat next to at "The Nutcracker." https://www.fs.usda.gov/angeles