Some Bright Nowhere by Ann Packer is a tender story of marriage, family and home. Ann joins us to talk about shifting perspective, community, character, moral dilemmas, influences and more with host Miwa Messer.

This episode of Poured Over was hosted by Miwa Messer and mixed by Harry Liang.

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Featured Books (Episode): Some Bright Nowhere by Ann Packer Mendocino and Other Stories by Ann Packer The Dive From Clausen's Pier by Ann Packer Songs Without Words by Ann Packer The Children's Crusade by Ann Packer Sandwich by Catherine Newman Disturbances in the Field by Lynne Sharon Schwartz