On this week’s Lunch With Jamie, I had the honor of talking with Anne Applebaum — Pulitzer Prize winning historian, staff writer for the Atlantic and the author of many books, most recently Autocracy Inc.

We discussed Ukraine, the gutting of U.S.A.I.D, Elon Musk, the troubling rise of authoritarianism across the globe, Anne’s optimism about the resilience of democracy, and much more.

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