This week we are re-releasing our conversation with Bryan Stevenson from 2020. Bryan Stevenson is the founder of the Equal Justice Initiative and one of the most influential voices on justice, race, and moral reckoning in America today.

Stevenson traces his personal journey from growing up in the Jim Crow South to defending individuals on death row, unpacking how America’s legal system has long treated people “better if you’re rich and guilty than if you’re poor and innocent.” He explains why true justice requires more than laws—it requires truth-telling, proximity to suffering, narrative change, hope, and the courage to do uncomfortable things.

This conversation explores:

• Why America has never fully confronted the legacy of slavery, lynching, segregation, and racial terror
• How storytelling, film, and culture shape — and can repair — our collective moral narrative
• The difference between policy fixes and moral repair
• Why hopelessness is the enemy of justice
• What real accountability and repair could look like in America
• The role creators, artists, and leaders play in shaping the future of justice

Stevenson also shares unforgettable personal stories—from confronting racial humiliation in courtrooms to moments of unexpected reconciliation at lynching sites—that illuminate what justice looks like when truth is finally acknowledged.

This is not a conversation about politics.

It’s a conversation about moral responsibility, historical truth, and the future we are choosing to build.

If you care about justice, storytelling, leadership, or the soul of America—this is an essential listen.

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In this episode from December 2025, Jamie Patricof sits down with Anthony Scaramucci for a wide-ranging, unfiltered conversation about power, politics, and personal reckoning. Scaramucci reflects on his infamous 11-day stint as White House Communications Director under Donald Trump, tracing his journey from Wall Street to the center of American politics — and the lessons learned from ambition, ego, and loyalty.

The discussion explores Scaramucci’s long history within the Republican Party, his role in the 2016 Trump campaign, and why he ultimately broke with Trump publicly. They dive into themes of political identity, Trumpism, media outrage, cancel culture, money in politics, and the growing divide in American democracy. Scaramucci also shares insights on populism, gerrymandering, social media radicalization, and why he believes the U.S. is approaching a critical moment of political reckoning.

Later in the conversation, Scaramucci addresses the crisis facing young men in America, drawing from his work on the Lost Boys podcast, and discusses leadership, accountability, and what meaningful reform could look like heading into 2026 and 2028.

This episode offers a rare insider perspective on the Trump White House, modern American politics, and the personal cost of power — from someone who lived it.

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In the wake of the Brown University shooting, Senator Mark Kelly joins the conversation to address the reality of gun violence in America and why these tragedies have become so common.

Drawing from personal experience—including the 2011 shooting of his wife, former Congresswoman Gabby Giffords—Senator Kelly explains how mass shootings, school shootings, and everyday gun violence continue to traumatize communities across the United States. He discusses why America stands out globally for gun violence, the long-term psychological impact on young people, and what meaningful gun reform could look like moving forward.

This episode explores why gun violence has become normalized in American life, the policy failures that allow it to persist, and what accountability and action could change the trajectory.

This is not a partisan debate—it’s a conversation about public safety, children’s lives, and whether the United States is willing to confront a crisis that affects everyone.

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Why do Democrats keep losing people they actually agree with?

In this conversation, Jamie Patricof sits down with Congresswoman Sarah McBride to break down one of the most overlooked forces in American politics: why persuadable voters walk away from the Democratic Party even when they share the same values.

Sarah explains the psychology of voters who feel pushed out, why “imperfect allies” matter, how coalition-building really works, and how Democrats unintentionally shrink their own tent. She also lays out the stakes of the current healthcare crisis, why affordability is becoming the defining issue for 2025, and what it will take to build a durable majority that can actually govern.

If you’re interested in political strategy, voter behavior, democracy reform, or understanding why elections are won and lost in the middle—this is a must-watch episode.

What we cover:

– Why so many voters feel rejected by Democrats

– How moral purity tests shrink the coalition

– The danger of pushing away imperfect allies

– Voter psychology and political identity

– Affordability, healthcare, and the 2025 landscape

– The “$1 trillion healthcare bomb”

– How Democrats can actually win again

– Why listening matters more than lecturing

– Building a bigger, stronger, more curious political movement

– What Sarah McBride believes the Democratic Party must do next

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Jamie Patricof hosts candid political conversations centered on democracy, common sense, affordability, and real solutions. Each episode highlights voices shaping the future of our country — without the noise, outrage, or partisanship.

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Congressman Jake Auchincloss joins Jamie to break down the Epstein files, fractures inside MAGA, the future of Democratic strategy, rising healthcare costs, and his bold vision for building America’s next cities. They also discuss digital dopamine, Big Tech, the coming Alzheimer’s crisis, and why education and trade schools will shape the country’s future.

Topics: Epstein files, MAGA dynamics, Democratic strategy, healthcare, Big Tech & digital dopamine, Alzheimer’s crisis, education reform, trade schools, new cities & urban planning.

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Beto O’Rourke joins Jamie Patricof for an unfiltered conversation about the future of Texas, the state of American democracy, and why he believes Texas could save America.

In this powerful interview, Beto explains why, in his words, “America has bent the knee to Donald Trump,” and what needs to change for the country to fight back. He shares his firsthand view of how Texas politics, gerrymandering, and voter suppression have shaped national elections — and how his organization, Powered by People, is working to turn the tide before 2026.

This episode dives into:

The fight for democracy and what’s at stake in 2026

How Texas became the front line of America’s political divide

The role of leadership, unity, and courage in an age of fear

Why local action and grassroots organizing still matter

Beto’s message for Americans who feel powerless to create change

Whether you follow U.S. politics, care about Texas elections, or just want to understand how Donald Trump’s influence continues to shape the country, this conversation with Beto O’Rourke is essential listening.

Guest: Beto O’Rourke

Host: Jamie Patricof – Lunch with Jamie Podcast

Watch the full interview to hear why Beto says, “Our knees don’t bend — especially not in Texas.”

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In this episode of Lunch with Jamie, we sit down with Representative Jasmine Crockett for a candid and unfiltered conversation on the future of American politics.

We discuss the challenges facing Democrats in 2025, the ongoing fight for voting rights, the impact of redistricting in Texas, and what it really takes to be an effective leader in today’s polarized political environment. Jasmine opens up about her journey, her frustrations with dysfunction in Washington, and what she believes Democrats must do to reconnect with voters before 2026.

Topics Discussed:

• The realities of serving in today’s Congress
• How Texas redistricting could shape the next election
• The future of the Voting Rights Act
• Building back trust between Democrats and working-class voters
• Jasmine’s thoughts on leadership and accountability in Washington

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In this Lunch with Jamie conversation, Congressman Richie Torres (NY-15) sits down with Jamie to discuss the most pressing political and moral questions facing America today. Raised in public housing in the Bronx by a single mother, Torres shares how his upbringing shaped his fight for affordable housing, healthcare, and social services—and why he believes the Democratic Party must stand for something, not just against Trump.

We dive into:

• The human cost of the government shutdown and expiring ACA premium credits
• How the affordability crisis threatens American democracy
• Why Democrats need a clear, affirmative agenda to win back trust
• The danger of losing Voting Rights Act protections and what it means for representation
• His stance on Israel, free speech, and rising antisemitism
• Why local politics and new media matter more than ever
• Torres’s remarkable journey from the Bronx to the House of Representatives

This episode reveals the values and leadership style of one of the most thoughtful and independent voices in Congress.

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This week we are re-sharing our conversation with former U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder joined Jamie in 2020 for a powerful conversation about justice, democracy, and the future of America.

From his time serving under President Barack Obama to his ongoing fight for voting rights and fair elections, Holder reflects on the challenges facing our legal system, the politicization of the Supreme Court, and what it will take to restore trust in America’s institutions.

Holder discusses the battle over democracy, why protecting the rule of law is more critical than ever, and how everyday citizens can help strengthen the foundations of our republic.

What you’ll learn in this episode:

• Eric Holder on the state of American democracy
• Why voting rights remain under threat — and how to defend them
• The role of the Supreme Court in shaping justice
• Lessons from his time in the Obama administration
• How we rebuild faith in our political and legal systems

If you care about justice, leadership, and the future of democracy, this conversation is one you won’t want to miss.

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In this episode of Lunch with Jamie, veteran journalist Stephen Sackur joins Jamie to reflect on nearly 20 years of HARDtalk, why the BBC shut it down, and what its end says about the state of truth, journalism, and democracy today.

From grilling presidents and dictators, to navigating the collapse of shared facts in our politics, Sackur shares what he’s learned about power, free speech, and the future of investigative reporting. Known for his rigorous but empathetic style, Sackur pulls back the curtain on why journalism is struggling to survive — and why our democracies may not survive without it.

This conversation dives deep into the decline of fact-based reporting, the dangers of misinformation, and the question at the heart of our time: can truth still win?

What you’ll learn in this episode:

• Why the BBC cancelled HARDtalk after nearly 20 years

• How Stephen Sackur became one of the world’s toughest interviewers

• Why journalism is in crisis across the globe

• The connection between misinformation, polarization, and democracy’s decline

• Why free speech — even speech you hate — still matters

• Sackur’s next project: a book on the rise and fall of investigative journalism

If you care about truth, journalism, and the future of democracy, this is a conversation you don’t want to miss.

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