In this HEP Talks episode, we have the privilege of delving into a thought-provoking podcast interview with Penny Rabiger, an ex-teacher and educational consultant who has worked with the Key for School Leaders, Lyfta, and the BAMEed Network, and who is also a member of HEP’s Racial Equity Steering Group as well as a school governor. This podcast explores anti-racist school governance and provides actionable insights for combating systemic racism.