In this episode of Discussions from the Deep End, host Daniel Peters and co-host Kirsten Barnes welcome Nathalie Martin for a wide-ranging conversation about drowning prevention, leadership, and the power of communication to improve aquatic safety. Nathalie shares insights from her work across more than 20 countries, offering a global perspective on the challenges aquatic professionals face and the strategies that can help turn research and advocacy into real-world impact.

From legislative advocacy and nonprofit leadership to international collaboration and community-based prevention efforts, Nathalie’s experience highlights how effective communication and cross-sector partnerships can strengthen aquatic operations at every level. Whether you work in a municipal pool, waterpark, YMCA, university, or another aquatic setting, this conversation offers practical takeaways on how to apply ideas, build stronger teams, and make safer decisions in your facility.

Learn more about Nathalie and her work:

• Swim Global Project: https://swimglobalproject.com
• AOAP article: Understanding Strong Aquatic Research and How It Applies: https://aquaticpros.org/understanding-aquatic-research/
• AOAP article: The Ethics of Research: A Wake-Up Call for Academia and Drowning Prevention: https://aquaticpros.org/the-ethics-of-research-a-wake-up-call-for-academia-and-drowning-prevention/
• IDRA member profile: https://idra.world/members1/nathalie-martin-m-a-canada-usa/
• Swim Global Project on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/swimglobalproject/

Learn more about AOAP, training opportunities, conference resources, and drowning-prevention support at https://aquaticpros.org

AOAP launches Discussions from the Deep End, a podcast built for aquatic professionals who want real conversations, practical ideas, and stronger, safer programs.

In this kickoff episode, host Daniel Peters is joined by AOAP leadership—Assistant Director Kirsten Barnes & Current AOAP President Joey LaNeve—to introduce the “why” behind the podcast and what listeners can expect moving forward. From risk management and staffing to leadership and community impact, this series is designed to bring conference-level insights to your everyday work.

You’ll hear how AOAP plans to extend the energy of the 2026 conference throughout the year, key takeaways that are shaping the future of aquatics, and a preview of what’s ahead for 2027 in Reno.

Whether you’re on deck, in the office, or on the go, each episode aims to give you one practical takeaway and one big-picture idea to help you lead with confidence.