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Join us as we delve into a lively debate on the merits of outcome-based roadmaps versus output-based roadmaps. With examples, strategic discussions, and practical insights, we explore what makes outcome-based roadmaps the far superior option for teams, stakeholders, and company success. From prioritization and communication to continuous discovery and handling milestones (aka. deadlines), this podcast covers nearly every counter-point you'll hear. We hope, after listening, you'll come away with a deeper understanding of why outcome-based roadmaps are the winning formula for driving impactful results.
0:00 Topic Intro
0:38 Order off the Menu
3:21 Outcome-Based Roadmap Example
5:30 Output-Based Roadmap Example
7:24 Focusing on the Number 1 Priority
12:54 Communication
18:15 Continuous Discovery
20:44 Milestones
22:49 Better for the Teams and Team Members
27:58 Better for Stakeholders
31:29 Summary
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AA113 - Debating the Superiority of Outcome-Based Roadmaps
In this information-packed episode, Product Manager Brian Orlando and Enterprise Agility Coach Om Patel dive deep into the process of evolving a software development team past spending significant time on estimation to becoming so proficient that estimation becomes unnecessary. In this podcast, you'll learn invaluable tips, techniques, and strategies to help your team streamline their estimation process, reduce unknowns, and enhance collaboration with stakeholders. From breaking down work through vertical slicing to learning stories and transferring skills - get ready to learn how to transform your team!
0:00 Send Us Your Questions!
1:55 Evolving a Team
2:56 Why Estimate?
6:05 Breaking Down Work (Vertical Slicing)
10:09 Learning Stories Reduce Unknowns
18:18 Transferring Skills
22:32 Team Talks Directly with Stakeholders
26:23 Product Manager/Owner Problems
28:59 Watch Throughput, Cycle Time, & Lead Time
35:17 Summary
37:07 Wrap-Up
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AA112 - Master Agile Estimation by Evolving Beyond It
How will AI impact Health Care?
On this episode, Product Manager and Registered Nurse Stormy Dickson joins us to talk about AI. We take opposing views on AI and it's impact (both past and potential future) on the medical field.
0:00 Topic Intro
0:50 End of an Era?
3:52 Is this a New Era?
6:23 Replacing Doctors, or Not
9:29 AI's Limits
11:20 Data Labeling is Learning
15:52 Better Doctors Enabled by AI (until it kills someone)
18:15 AI Doctors Mean AI Laywers
19:13 Small Disruptions
22:48 Development: Prone to Disruption
25:31 Interacting with People
27:57 Mechanical + AI = Breakthrough
30:09 Market + Ethics
32:11 Creating New Jobs and Markets
34:09 Confidence and Nuance
36:25 Brian's Final Thoughts
37:16 Stormy's Final Comment
38:01 Om's Final Comment
38:38 Ask a Question at ArguingAgile.com
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AA111 - Exploring AI in Health Care (with Stormy Dickson)
Is it possible to go from being a Project Manager to a Product Manager?
On this episode we dig into the possible advantages and disadvantages a Project Manager might have moving into Product Management.
0:00 Topic Intro
0:59 Concerns
4:44 Operations Experience
7:39 Stakeholder Management & Communications
10:21 Influence
11:13 Expanded Business Awareness
13:24 Disadvantages: Uncertainty
16:00 Risk Management
20:03 The Tyrrany of Planning
22:12 Blame Game
27:18 Leadership vs Management
30:37 Growth Experience
32:17 Ways to Get Hired as a Product
37:50 Newly Minted MBAs
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AA110 - Project Manager to Product Manager
In this episode, Product Manager Brian Orlando and Enterprise Agility Coach Om Patel discuss the three different types of teams described by Peter Drucker in his 1994 book: Post-Capitalist Society.
0:00 Intro
0:18 Today's Topic
1:35 Peter Drucker on Teams
3:05 Why This Book?
5:41 Team Transformation is Agile Transformation
8:17 Existing Team Models
11:01 The First Team Type
12:51 Misapplying the Model
15:29 Tight Specializations (Back-End & Front-End)
17:58 UI/UX
19:51 Summarizing the First Example
22:09 The Second Team Type
26:48 Out of Sync Org Design
29:38 The Third Team Type
33:52 Which Type is Management Structured to Support?
36:09 Wrap-Up
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In this episode, Lead Web Application Penetration Tester Steve Kline joins Product Manager Brian Orlando and Enterprise Agility Coach Om Patel to discuss the field of penetration testing.
In addition to discussing how people break into pen testing, we talk about commonalities in career paths, differences in training and certifications, and the assumption of risk (or not).
0:00 Topic Intro
0:28 Breaking In
4:53 Getting into Pen Testing
9:13 Journey to Pen Testing
13:29 Jumping Straight In (No Experience)
17:30 Arguing on NFRs
18:54 Appetite for Risk
27:22 Org Structure of Pen Testers
30:09 Business Viability
31:21 Musing on QA to Pen Testing
34:33 Implications of AI
39:35 Advice for Breaking In from Steve
43:45 Advice for Breaking In from Om
47:06 Advice for Breaking In from Brian
51:49 A Final Note on Mentors
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AA108 - Breaking into Penetration Testing, with Steve Kline
In this episode, we go over the reasons team members might be shared or otherwise not dedicated to one scrum team.
0:00 Intro
1:11 What "The Book" Says
3:36 Supporting Everything, Forever
7:01 Scaling
9:56 Runaway Success
12:33 Development and Support
15:38 How Do You Visualize?
17:56 Have the Larger Conversation
20:22 Two Boards: One Kanban, One Sprint
24:29 Being the Maintenance Developer
26:12 First-Draft Support Triage
31:05 The "Hey Buddy" Backlog
34:29 Confrontation
39:02 Valuation in the Backlog
43:08 Track Metrics
48:02 Tell a Story with Those Metrics
49:56 Leadership's Motivation
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AA107 - Sharing Team Members (Non-dedicated team members)
Are you a Product Manager or Product Owner?
Do you sometimes feel like you are an imposter?
Join Product Managers Stormy Dickson and Brian Orlando and Enterprise Agility Coach Hemant (Om) Patel as they talk about the reasons, and what can be done to minimize or overcome imposter syndrome.
#impostersyndrome #productmanagement #career
0:00 Topic Intro
0:12 Empowerment
1:33 Push-Back on Empowerment
5:12 Being "New" At The Company
9:48 Choose Responsibility
12:47 Future Leadership Panel Interview
14:38 Influence
16:34 Politics or Leadership?
19:58 Being a Better Communicator
23:59 Bringing People Together
28:27 Repeating Yourself
30:33 Money Metrics
34:17 AARRR Pirate Metrics
37:39 Being Responsible for Money
39:19 Dated Accounting Models
41:31 Challenging on Financial Literacy
43:07 Never Stop Learning
45:24 Wrap-up
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AA106 - Imposter Syndrome in Product Management
On this episode, Scrum Master Ayo Eyo joins Product Manager Brian Orlando and Enterprise Agility Coach Om Patel to talk about the value a Scrum Master brings to an organization - and to answer the question, where have all the Scrum Masters gone?
0:00 Topic Intro
0:33 Ayo is Back!
1:14 Surfing TikTok
2:41 Why Does This Seem Prevalent
5:43 Essential SM Skills
10:00 Why Do We Need a SM, What Do They Do
12:26 Go Faster
14:34 Taylorism Brick Laying Example
16:35 Show Me the Metrics
19:43 Impediments and Dependencies
21:48 How Management Thinks
25:38 Responding to Management
28:50 Title Creep
31:07 An Initial Plan
35:07 Gino Wickman: Traction
37:18 Nico Nico
42:07 Retrospectives
45:15 Advice for Executives (Applies Here Too)
46:38 Do I NEED This
47:46 Losing Sponsorship
49:43 Accountability for Continuous Improvement
53:31 Baselines, Trends, & Extrapolations
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AA105 - Where Have All the Scrum Masters Gone?
In the previous episode (here: https://youtu.be/T1doj980NuE) we explored the things that need to be in-place before a great Product Roadmap can be built. In this episode, we use those concepts to create a Mission, Vision, Strategies, and Goals for our organization and product, the Arguing Agile Podcast!
#productmanagement #agile #career
0:00 Topic: Crafting a Mission, Vision, & Strategy
1:13 The Existing Mission/Vision
2:20 Crafting the Vision
4:08 Going One Step Deeper
5:56 The Original Mission
7:09 Working on the Mission
9:26 Roman Pichler's Product Vision Board
10:22 Assumption-Based Vision/Mission
11:39 Forming a Coherent Mission
13:30 Completing Mission
16:06 Kernel of a Good Strategy
18:19 Sidebar: Strategy in the Real-World
20:09 How This All Fits
21:22 Strategy #1
22:23 Saying No
23:50 Continuing Strategies and Separating Goals
27:19 Identifying Redundant & Missing Strategies
29:18 Now, the Roadmap
31:08 We Probably Should Have Cut This Section
31:29 Wrap-up
32:43 Another (Unnecessary) Wrap-Up
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AA104 - Creating a Mission, Vision, & Strategy
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