A short saga talk gives way to lengthy conversations about Smooth Talk and A Brighter Summer Day and as always, the act of podcasting. I don’t know why this one keeps happening.

Niamh can be found haunting Export Audio with Ghost Divers and Ornate Stairwells (and Pondering Pootan, which has never haunted anyone) and on twitter @foxmomnia

Em can be found working themselves into an early grave here at Abnormal Mapping and on twitter @em_being

Next episode: Brennu-Njáls saga, ch. 67-90