Em had a coffee several hours before recording and became truly insufferable during the span of this podcast, dragging Niamh into a bunch of stupid discussions when the fox simply wanted to rest. That’s the holiday spirit at work.

Niamh can be found haunting Export Audio with Ghost Divers and Ornate Stairwells (and Pondering Pootan, which has never haunted anyone) and on twitter @foxmomnia

Em can be found working themselves into an early grave here at Abnormal Mapping and on twitter @em_being

Next episode: The Nibelungenlied, ch. 25-27