The energy levels are inverted this week as Niamh is ready to go three hours and Em has to pull the emergency eject lever. But before that, we talk a bit about the holidays, childhood toys, FF8, and of course our regular saga chat.

Niamh can be found haunting Export Audio with Ghost Divers and Ornate Stairwells (and Pondering Pootan, which has never haunted anyone) and on twitter @foxmomnia

Em can be found working themselves into an early grave here at Abnormal Mapping and on twitter @em_being

Next episode: The Nibelungenlied, ch. 28-30