On the first episode of Art and BS, Jonathan Lopez joins us to talk about murals, paintings, getting started, and a host of other things. John can be found on Instagram at @artbyjonathanlopez

Mike Wagner my longtime friend joins me for the pilot episode of Art & BS. I recorded over speakerphone while painting at 3am. It's a very unscripted conversation to say the least. Mike prepares for his upcoming show curated by Bridge Productions in Seattle, Washington. He informs me I've been pronouncing a color incorrectly, explains the hidden meanings of the Jungle Book movie, and talks about popping bottles.