Software engineering has an identity problem. Some software engineers want to be craftspeople and artisans, while others want to be more like the traditional engineers, while others just want to write some code. In this episode, Kris and Matt talk about the state of software engineering today and the areas that they think could use improvement.

For this week's episode of break, we're pulling one out of the archives! Sometimes we record an episode and don't ship it for quite a while, and this one was recorded all the way back on July 30th! Kris and Matt talk about their (at the time) yet to be recorded episode with Mitchell, Oxide's Series B announcement, and have another conversation about software artisans. Watch it on YouTube or listen with your favorite podcasting app! Learn more by going to https://break.show/15.

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Table of Contents:

• Prologue (00:00:00)
• Chapter 1: The Current State of Software Engineering (00:02:28)
• Chapter 2: MVPs and the Challenge of Shipping Software (00:17:05)
• Chapter 3: Project Management and Workflows [Extended] (00:26:01)
• Chapter 4: The Invisible Things (00:26:24)
• Chapter 5: Path Dependency and Asking Why (00:31:26)
• Chapter 6: Engineering Is About Design (00:46:11)
• Chapter 7: We Need Better Planning [Extended] (00:58:42)
• Chapter 8: Matt wants to write less code (00:59:02)
• Chapter 9: Kris' view of AI has shifted [Extended] (01:02:38)
• Epilogue (01:03:06)

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• (00:00) - Prologue