One in 12 American children, more than 5.7 million kids, have experienced parental incarceration at some point during their lives. Black Americans are 50 percent more likely than white Americans to have a family member who is formerly or currently incarcerated. At the ACLU, we are working to reform the criminal legal system in order to significantly reduce its footprint in the United States, because we know the ramifications of incarceration are broad, complex and damaging. Incarceration doesn’t *just* impact the person incarcerated, but we don’t often engage in that conversation. The American jail and prison system pulls apart entire families and communities, predominantly those of color. Our guest today understands all of this on a visceral level.

Ashley C. Ford is a writer, podcaster and educator who deals with topics including race, sexuality and body image. This June, Ashley released her debut memoir called Somebody’s Daughter, where she details her experience growing up with a single mom and an incarcerated dad as a Black kid in Indiana. When released, Somebody’s Daughter became an instant New York Times bestseller. Ashley joins us on the podcast today to talk about her book, mass incarceration, and what “justice” means to her from where she stands today.