Forest lost away to an Aston Villa team who look exceptional under Unai Emery, but you could argue that the Reds were once again masters of their own downfall with poor defending leaving them 3-0 down before they even got going. Moussa Niakhate and Morgan Gibbs-White scored either side of the break to give hope to the visitors, but Villa took control again and scored a fourth after more poor defending.

George Edwards and Ellie Molloson report back from the away end at Villa Park, with thoughts about playing the big Senegalese at left-back and the merits of Divock Origi. We also hear from Neil of For The Love of Paul McGrath podcast, with his thoughts on the game and the Reds' prospects.

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