This episode features Wes Herche of Prologis unpacking how AI, energy, logistics, and space are converging, as exploding AI workloads shift cloud economics from mostly fixed costs to massive variable costs tied to power, compute, and cooling. He explores how these pressures, combined with growing nimbyism around data centers, are driving interest in space-based cloud/compute, distributed renewables (especially solar), battery storage, and other technologies as tools for energy security, resilience, and defense missions on Earth and in orbit.