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In this episode, CardioNerds Dr. Colin Blumenthal, Dr. Kelly Arps, and Dr. Yong Hao Yeo are joined by electrophysiology expert Dr. Bradley Knight to discuss atrial fibrillation (AF) management in challenging clinical scenarios. We explore arrhythmias in patients with pre-excitation syndromes, particularly Wolff-Parkinson-White (WPW) syndrome, and strategies for rhythm control. We also discuss AF management in pregnancy, adult congenital heart disease, and patients with tachycardia-bradycardia (tach-brady) syndrome. This episode provides essential insights into nuanced decision-making for the care of patients with complex arrhythmia profiles. Audio editing by CardioNerds academy intern, Grace Qiu.
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CardioNerds (Dr. Ramy Doss, Dr. Kelly Arps, and Dr. Naima Maqsood) dive into the nuances of atrial fibrillation (AF) ablation with Dr. Jon Piccini. They provide a high-yield overview of AF ablation, guiding listeners from patient selection through post-procedural management. We review appropriate candidacy for catheter ablation across AF phenotypes, key elements of pre-procedural evaluation including imaging and anticoagulation strategy, and the fundamental procedural steps with pulmonary vein isolation as the cornerstone. The discussion compares lesion set strategies in de novo ablation and reviews currently used energy sources—including radiofrequency, cryoablation, and pulsed-field ablation—highlighting differences in safety and efficacy. They also examine surgical and hybrid approaches for selected patients and outline essential components of post-ablation care, including rhythm monitoring, anticoagulation decisions, and management of complications. This episode integrates contemporary evidence with practical insights to support clinicians delivering comprehensive AF ablation care. Audio editing for this episode was performed by CardioNerds intern Dr. Bhavya Shah.
NOTE: This episode was recorded in March 2025. Since then, the OCEAN trial showed that among patients who had had successful catheter ablation for atrial fibrillation at least 1 year earlier and had risk factors for stroke, treatment with rivaroxaban did not result in a significantly lower incidence of a composite of stroke, systemic embolism, or new covert embolic stroke than treatment with aspirin.
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Anesthesia & Monitoring
Vascular Access
Intracardiac Echocardiography (ICE)
Anticoagulation
Transseptal Puncture
Left Atrial Mapping
Ablation Strategy
Post-Ablation Assessment
Key information provided
Pulsed Field Ablation (PFA) – Non-Thermal
Radiofrequency Ablation (RFA) – Thermal (Heat)
Cryoballoon Ablation (CBA) – Thermal (Cold)
CardioNerds (Dr. Colin Blumenthal, Dr. Kelly Arps, and Dr. Natalie Marrero) discuss anti-arrhythmic drugs in the management of atrial fibrillation and atrial flutter with electrophysiologist Dr. Andrew Epstein. We discuss two major classes of anti-arrhythmic drugs, class IC and class III, as well as digoxin. Dr. Epstein explains their mechanisms of action, indications and specific patient populations in which they would be particularly helpful, efficacy, adverse side effects, contraindications, and key drug-drug interactions. We also elaborate on defining clinical trials and their clinical implications. Given the large burden of atrial fibrillation and atrial flutter in our patient population and the high prevalence of anti-arrhythmic drug use, this episode is sure to be applicable to many practicing physicians and trainees. Audio editing by CardioNerds academy intern, Grace Qiu.
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Notes: Notes drafted by Dr. Natalie Marrero.
1. Mar PL, Horbal P, Chung MK, et al. Drug interactions affecting antiarrhythmic drug use. Circulation: Arrhythmia and Electrophysiology. 2022;15(5):e007955. https://doi.org/10.1161/CIRCEP.121.007955. doi: 10.1161/CIRCEP.121.007955.
2. Gianfranchi L, Luzi M, Solano A, et al. Outpatient treatment of recent-onset atrial fibrillation with the “pill-in-the-pocket” approach. N Engl J Med. 2004;351(23):2384–2391. https://doi.org/10.1056/NEJMoa041233. doi: 10.1056/NEJMoa041233.
3. Barker AH, Echt DS, Arensberg D, et al. Mortality and morbidity in patients receiving encainide, flecainide, or placebo. N Engl J Med. 1991;324(12):781–788. https://doi.org/10.1056/NEJM199103213241201. doi: 10.1056/NEJM199103213241201.
4. Markman Timothy M., Jarrah Andrew A., Ye T, et al. Safety of pill-in-the-pocket class 1C antiarrhythmic drugs for atrial fibrillation. JACC: Clinical Electrophysiology. 2022;8(12):1515–1520. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jacep.2022.07.010. doi: 10.1016/j.jacep.2022.07.010.
5. Joglar JA, Chung MK, Armbruster AL, et al. 2023 ACC/AHA/ACCP/HRS guideline for the diagnosis and management of atrial fibrillation: A report of the american college of cardiology/american heart association joint committee on clinical practice guidelines. Circulation. 2024;149(1):e1–e156. https://doi.org/10.1161/CIR.0000000000001193. doi: 10.1161/CIR.0000000000001193.
6. Ferrari F, Santander IRMF, Stein R. Digoxin in Atrial Fibrillation: An Old Topic Revisited. Curr Cardiol Rev. 2020;16(2):141-146. doi:10.2174/1573403X15666190618110941
7. Van Gelder I,C., Rienstra M, Bunting KV, et al. 2024 ESC guidelines for the management of atrial fibrillation developed in collaboration with the european association for cardio-thoracic surgery (EACTS): Developed by the task force for the management of atrial fibrillation of the european society of cardiology (ESC), with the special contribution of the european heart rhythm association (EHRA) of the ESC. endorsed by the european stroke organisation (ESO). Eur Heart J. 2024;45(36):3314–3414. https://doi.org/10.1093/eurheartj/ehae176. doi: 10.1093/eurheartj/ehae176.
8. Copaescu AM, Vogrin S, James F, et al. Efficacy of a Clinical Decision Rule to Enable Direct Oral Challenge in Patients With Low-Risk Penicillin Allergy: The PALACE Randomized Clinical Trial. JAMA Intern Med. 2023;183(9):944-952. doi:10.1001/jamainternmed.2023.2986
9. Kirchhof P, Camm AJ, Goette A, et al. Early Rhythm-Control Therapy in Patients with Atrial Fibrillation. N Engl J Med. 2020;383(14):1305-1316. doi:10.1056/NEJMoa2019422
10. Anderson JL, Platia EV, Hallstrom A, et al. Interaction of baseline characteristics with the hazard of encainide, flecainide, and moricizine therapy in patients with myocardial infarction. A possible explanation for increased mortality in the Cardiac Arrhythmia Suppression Trial (CAST). Circulation. 1994;90(6):2843-2852. doi:10.1161/01.cir.90.6.2843
11.Akiyama T, Pawitan Y, Greenberg H, Kuo C, Reynolds-Haertle R, The CI. Increased risk of death and cardiac arrest from encainide and flecainide in patients after non-Q-wave acute myocardial infarction in the cardiac arrhythmia suppression trial. Am J Cardiol. 1991;68(17):1551–1555. https://doi.org/10.1016/0002-9149(91)90308-8. doi: 10.1016/0002-9149(91)90308-8.
12. Parkash R, Wells GA, Rouleau J, et al. Randomized Ablation-Based Rhythm-Control Versus Rate-Control Trial in Patients With Heart Failure and Atrial Fibrillation: Results from the RAFT-AF trial. Circulation. 2022;145(23):1693-1704. doi:10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.121.057095
In this episode, the CardioNerds (Dr. Naima Maqsood, Dr. Akiva Rosenzveig, and Dr. Colin Blumenthal) are joined by renowned educator in electrophysiology, Dr. Joshua Cooper, to discuss everything atrial flutter; from anatomy and pathophysiology to diagnosis and management. Dr. Cooper’s expert teaching comes through as Dr. Cooper vividly describes atrial anatomy to provide the foundational understanding to be able to understand why management of atrial flutter is unique from atrial fibrillation despite their every intertwined relationship. A foundational episode for learners to understand atrial flutter as well as numerous concepts in electrophysiology. Audio editing for this episode was performed by CardioNerds intern Dr. Bhavya Shah.
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Notes: Notes drafted by Dr. Akiva Rosenzveig
CardioNerds (Dr. Kelly Arps, Dr. Naima Maqsood, and Dr. Elizabeth Davis) discuss chronic AF management with Dr. Edmond Cronin. This episode seeks to explore the chronic management of atrial fibrillation (AF) as described by the 2023 ACC/AHA/ACCP/HRS Guideline for the Diagnosis and Management of Atrial Fibrillation: A Report of the American College of Cardiology/American Heart Association Joint Committee on Clinical Practice Guidelines. The discussion covers the different AF classifications, symptomatology, and management including medications and invasive therapies. Importantly, the episode explores current gaps in knowledge and where there is indecision regarding proper treatment course, as in those with heart failure and AF. Our expert, Dr. Cronin, helps elucidate these gaps and apply guideline knowledge to patient scenarios. Audio editing for this episode was performed by CardioNerds intern Dr. Bhavya Shah.
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Notes: Notes drafted by Dr. Davis.
What are the stages of atrial fibrillation?
What are common symptoms of AF?
What are the current guidelines regarding rhythm control and available options?
How would you monitor for AF recurrence in post-ablation or cardioversion? Is there a role for monitoring in every patient?
What AF burden warrants intervention?
What are some options for antiarrhythmic drugs and their characteristics?
When should AV node ablation (AVNA) be considered?
What are some recommendations for managing atrial fibrillation in the perioperative period?
Dr. Naima Maqsood, Dr. Kelly Arps, and Dr. Jake Roberts discuss the acute management of atrial fibrillation with guest expert Dr. Jonathan Chrispin. Episode audio was edited by CardioNerds Intern Dr. Bhavya Shah.
This episode reviews acute management strategies for atrial fibrillation. Atrial fibrillation is the most common chronic arrhythmia worldwide and is associated with increasingly prevalent comorbidities, including advanced age, obesity, and hypertension. Atrial fibrillation is a frequent indication for hospitalization and a complicating factor during hospital stays for other conditions. Here, we discuss considerations for the acute management of atrial fibrillation, including indications for rate versus rhythm control strategies, treatment targets for these approaches, considerations including pharmacologic versus electrical cardioversion, and management in the post-operative setting.
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1. Our first patient is a 65-year-old man with obesity, hypertension, obstructive sleep apnea, and pre-diabetes presenting for evaluation of worsening shortness of breath and palpitations. The patient has no known history of heart disease. Telemetry shows atrial fibrillation with ventricular rates elevated to 130-140 bpm. What would be the initial approach to addressing the acute management of atrial fibrillation in this patient? What are some of the primary considerations in the initial history and chart review?
2. How would the initial evaluation be different for patients who have a new diagnosis of atrial fibrillation compared to those who have a known prior history of this arrhythmia?
3. In cases for which acute rate control of atrial fibrillation is indicated, what is the recommended heart rate target and how quickly should we aim to reach that target?
4. What are some of the considerations for the selection of rate-controlling agents?
5. In what clinical scenarios might it be more optimal to consider an upfront rhythm control strategy?
6. Our second patient is a 58-year-old woman with a history of heart failure with reduced EF presenting to the ED with progressive lower extremity swelling and shortness of breath. She has a prior diagnosis of paroxysmal atrial fibrillation, and her most recent echo demonstrated an LVEF of 35%. She is found to have bilateral lower extremity pitting edema to her knees and elevated jugular venous pressure while requiring 2L of oxygen by nasal cannula. She is in rapid atrial fibrillation on presentation. Interrogation of her primary prevention ICD shows that she has been in atrial fibrillation for the past 3 weeks. In this scenario involving a patient with an acute heart failure exacerbation, are there considerations for a more upfront rhythm control strategy and perhaps electrical cardioversion?
7. A common scenario in which we often find ourselves managing atrial fibrillation is in the postoperative setting. What are some of the management strategies for postoperative atrial fibrillation and how does this vary between patients who underwent cardiac versus non-cardiac procedures?
8. What are some of the considerations for a pill-in-the-pocket strategy for those patients who experience infrequent episodes of symptomatic atrial fibrillation?
1. Van Gelder IC, Groenveld HF, Crijns HJGM, et al. Lenient versus Strict Rate Control in Patients with Atrial Fibrillation. New England Journal of Medicine. 2010;362(15). doi:10.1056/nejmoa1001337
2. Kirchhof P, Camm AJ, Goette A, et al. Early Rhythm-Control Therapy in Patients with Atrial Fibrillation. New England Journal of Medicine. 2020;383(14). doi:10.1056/nejmoa2019422
3. Rillig A, Magnussen C, Ozga AK, et al. Early Rhythm Control Therapy in Patients With Atrial Fibrillation and Heart Failure. Circulation. 2021;144(11). doi:10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.121.056323
4. Gaudino M, Di Franco A, Rong LQ, Piccini J, Mack M. Postoperative atrial fibrillation: From mechanisms to treatment. Eur Heart J. 2023;44(12). doi:10.1093/eurheartj/ehad019
5. Perezgrovas-Olaria R, Alzghari T, Rahouma M, et al. Differences in Postoperative Atrial Fibrillation Incidence and Outcomes After Cardiac Surgery According to Assessment Method and Definition: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis. J Am Heart Assoc. 2023;12(19). doi:10.1161/JAHA.123.030907
6. Gilbers MD, Kawczynski MJ, Bidar E, et al. Determinants and impact of postoperative atrial fibrillation burden during 2.5 years of continuous rhythm monitoring after cardiac surgery: Results from the RACE V prospective cohort study. Heart Rhythm. 2024;22(3):647-660. doi:10.1016/j.hrthm.2024.08.014
7. Joglar JA, Chung MK, Armbruster AL, et al. 2023 ACC/AHA/ACCP/HRS Guideline for the Diagnosis and Management of Atrial Fibrillation: A Report of the American College of Cardiology/American Heart Association Joint Committee on Clinical Practice Guidelines. Circulation. 2024;149(1). doi:10.1161/CIR.0000000000001193
Dr. Kelly Arps, Dr. Naima Maqsood, and Dr. Sahi Allam discuss modifiable risk factors and lifestyle management of atrial fibrillation with Dr. Prash Sanders. Atrial fibrillation is becoming more prevalent across the world as people are living longer with cardiovascular disease. While much of our current focus lies on the pharmacological and procedural management of atrial fibrillation, several studies have shown that targeted reduction of risk factors, such as obesity, sleep apnea, hypertension, and alcohol use, can also significantly reduce atrial fibrillation burden and symptoms. Today, we discuss the data behind lifestyle management and why it is considered the “4th pillar” of atrial fibrillation treatment. We also explore ways to incorporate prevention strategies into our general cardiology and electrophysiology clinics to better serve the growing atrial fibrillation population. Audio editing for this episode was performed by CardioNerds Intern, Julia Marques Fernandes.
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Notes drafted by Dr. Allam.
1. How common is atrial fibrillation?
2. What is the underlying pathophysiology of atrial fibrillation? How do risk factors like sleep apnea or obesity “trigger” atrial fibrillation?
3. What are some of the risk factors for atrial fibrillation and what are the possible benefits of controlling them?
4. Can atrial fibrillation be treated with only lifestyle modifications?
5. What are the benefits of exercise in patients with atrial fibrillation? How much exercise do you recommend to your patients? Also, on the other end of the spectrum, does participation in endurance sports paradoxically promote atrial fibrillation?
6. How should we counsel patients about lifestyle management? Are there any good resources to use?
7. How should we explain what atrial fibrillation is to our patients?
1. Linz D, Gawalko M, Betz K, Hendriks J, Lip G, Vinter N. Atrial fibrillation: epidemiology, screening and digital health. The Lancet Regional Health – Europe. 2024;37(100786).
2. Joglar JA, Chung MK, Armbruster AL, et al. 2023 ACC/AHA/ACCP/HRS Guideline for the Diagnosis and Management of Atrial Fibrillation: A Report of the American College of Cardiology/American Heart Association Joint Committee on Clinical Practice Guidelines. Circulation. Jan 02 2024;149(1):e1-e156.
3. Serpa F, Tale A, Zimetbaum P, Kramer D. Trends in health care expenditures and incremental health care cost in adults with atrial fibrillation in the United States. Heart Rhythm O2. 2025;6(1).
4. Chung MK, Eckhardt LL, Chen LY, et al. Lifestyle and Risk Factor Modification for Reduction of Atrial Fibrillation: A Scientific Statement From the American Heart Association. Circulation. Apr 21 2020;141(16):e750-e772. doi:10.1161/CIR.0000000000000748
5. Elliott AD, Verdicchio CV, Mahajan R, et al. An exercise and physical activity program in patients with atrial fibrillation. JACC: Clinical Electrophysiology. 2023;9(4):455-465. doi:10.1016/j.jacep.2022.12.002
6. Atrial fibrillation in competitive athletes. American College of Cardiology. Accessed February 22, 2025. https://www.acc.org/Latest-in-Cardiology/Articles/2019/08/16/08/20/http%3a%2f%2fwww.acc.org%2fLatest-in-Cardiology%2fArticles%2f2019%2f08%2f16%2f08%2f20%2fAtrial-Fibrillation-in-Competitive-Athletes
CardioNerds Atrial Fibrillation Series Co-Chairs Dr. Colin Blumenthal (University of Pennsylvania Cardiology fellow) and Dr. Kelly Arps (Duke University Electrophysiology Fellow) join the 2023 atrial fibrillation guideline writing committee Chair Dr. José Joglar (UT Southwestern) and Vice Chair Dr. Mina Chung (Cleveland Clinic). They review the key takeaways from the 2023 ACC/AHA/ACCP/HRS Guideline for the Diagnosis and Management of Atrial Fibrillation. Audio editing by CardioNerds academy intern, student doctor Pace Wetstein.
This podcast was developed in collaboration with the American Heart Association. For more on these guidelines, access the AHA Science News AF Guideline landing page.
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CardioNerds co-founder Dr. Amit Goyal, series co-chair Dr. Colin Blumenthal, and episode lead Dr. Anushka Tandon to discuss pharmacologic anticoagulation options in atrial fibrillation with Drs. Ashley Lochman and Chris Domenico. The case-based review helps clarify some key concepts, such as when warfarin is preferred for anticoagulation, who may be a good DOAC (direct-acting oral anticoagulant) candidate, how to choose an appropriate DOAC agent, and how to manage anticoagulation therapy in patients already on antiplatelet therapies. Notes were drafted by Dr. Anushka Tandon. The episode audio was edited by student Dr. Shivani Reddy.
This CardioNerds Atrial Fibrillation series is a multi-institutional collaboration made possible by contributions of stellar fellow leads and expert faculty from several programs, led by series co-chairs, Dr. Kelly Arps and Dr. Colin Blumenthal.
This episode was planned and recorded prior to the release of the 2023 ACC/AHA/ACCP/HRS Guideline for the Diagnosis and Management of Atrial Fibrillation. Please refer to this guideline document for the most updated recommendations.
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In which cases is warfarin preferred over DOACs in patients with atrial fibrillation?
What patient-specific factors should be considered when deciding whether someone is a good candidate for DOAC therapy?
What safety profile and bleeding risk considerations exist for warfarin versus DOACs?
What is the recommended anti-thrombotic approach for patients with indications for both antiplatelet therapy and anticoagulation (for example, patients with atrial fibrillation undergoing PCI)?
What’s the scoop on factor XI, which appears to be clinically important for thrombosis but not hemostasis, as a potential drug target? Might this be the future of anticoagulation pharmacotherapy?
Dr. Daniel Ambinder (CardioNerds Co-Founder), Dr. Kelly Arps (Series Co-Chair and EP fellow at Duke University), Dr. Stephanie Fuentes Rojas (FIT Lead and EP fellow at Houston Methodist), and Dr. Ingrid Hsiung (Cardiology Fellow at Baylor Scott & White Health) discuss situational assessment of stroke and bleeding risk with expert faculty Dr. Hafiza Khan (Electrophysiologist at Baylor Scott & White Health). In this episode, we discuss stroke and bleeding risk in specific situations such as prior to cardioversion, triggered episodes, and perioperatively. These are scenarios that are commonly encountered and pose specific challenges. Episode notes were drafted by Dr. Stephanie Fuentes. Audio editing by CardioNerds Academy Intern, Dr. Maryam Barkhordarian.
This CardioNerds Atrial Fibrillation series is a multi-institutional collaboration made possible by contributions of stellar fellow leads and expert faculty from several programs, led by series co-chairs, Dr. Kelly Arps and Dr. Colin Blumenthal.
This series is supported by an educational grant from the Bristol Myers Squibb and Pfizer Alliance. All CardioNerds content is planned, produced, and reviewed solely by CardioNerds.
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Disclosures: Dr. Ellis discloses grant or research support from Boston Scientific, Abbott-St Jude, advisor for Atricure and Medtronic.
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How do we choose an imaging modality for excluding LAA thrombus exclusion prior to cardioversion?
What is the data behind the recommendation for uninterrupted AC following cardioversion and what is atrial stunning?
What is the approach of perioperative AC management in patients with atrial fibrillation?
What is the approach to AC in patients with triggered atrial fibrillation?
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