Attach Together

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Disorganised attachment is one of the most complex and misunderstood attachment styles in attachment theory.

In this episode of Attach Together, Darren is joined by counsellor and attachment-based psychotherapist Gav McKee to explore how disorganised attachment develops, how it shapes adult relationships, and how therapists can work safely and effectively with clients who carry unresolved attachment trauma.

For therapists working with trauma, personality disorder presentations, complex PTSD, or dissociation, understanding this attachment style is essential.

This conversation explores the clinical realities of working with unresolved attachment in therapy, including relational dynamics, emotional dysregulation, dissociation, and the importance of pacing and safety.

• What disorganised attachment is and how it develops
• The research of Mary Ainsworth, Mary Main and Judith Solomon
• The concept of fright without solution in attachment theory
• How trauma can be transmitted across generations
• Why disorganised attachment often appears alongside complex PTSD
• The push-pull dynamic often seen in adult relationships
• Emotional flooding, dissociation and shame in attachment trauma
• Why safety and stabilisation must come before trauma processing
• How therapists can become a consistent and regulating relational presence

• Disorganised attachment often originates when the caregiver is both comfort and threat
• Clients may experience intense approach-avoid patterns in relationships
• Emotional dysregulation and dissociation are common presentations
• Therapy must prioritise relational safety before trauma processing
• The therapeutic relationship itself becomes a corrective attachment experience

00:00 Introduction to the Attachment Theory Podcast
01:40 What Is Disorganised Attachment?
03:25 Fright Without Solution Explained
06:52 Intergenerational Trauma and Attachment
08:34 How Disorganised Attachment Appears in Adults
11:29 Relationship Patterns and Emotional Dysregulation
13:17 Working Safely with Disorganised Attachment
15:19 The Therapist as a Secure Base
18:55 Can Disorganised Attachment Be Resolved?
23:34 Clinical Dilemma: Dissociation in Therapy
26:02 Grounding Clients in the Therapy Room
27:11 The Value of Attachment Training

27:11 The Value of Attachment Training

• Mary Ainsworth – Strange Situation research
• Mary Main & Judith Solomon – Disorganised attachment classification

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Preoccupied Attachment, Attachment Theory, Therapy & Relationships

In this episode of Attach Together - the attachment theory podcast for counsellors and psychotherapists, we explore anxious ambivalent attachment, often described as preoccupied attachment.

We explore how anxious ambivalent attachment develops, how it appears in adult relationships, and how therapists can support clients experiencing intense relational anxiety, reassurance seeking and fear of abandonment.

Host Darren, BACP-accredited counsellor and attachment-based psychotherapist, is joined by Uruj Anjum, BACP-accredited psychotherapist, supervisor and lecturer in attachment-based psychotherapy at Optima.

Together, they unpack:

• What preoccupied attachment means beyond the stereotype
• How inconsistent caregiving shapes anxious ambivalent attachment
• Why reassurance seeking and overthinking often appear in relationships
• The nervous system dynamics beneath attachment anxiety
• Why preoccupied clients are often drawn to therapy
• The therapeutic task of slowing emotional overwhelm
• Boundary management with reassurance-seeking clients
• Understanding the “doorknob confession” through an attachment lens

Preoccupied attachment is protection, not pathology

Clients with anxious attachment styles often developed sophisticated strategies in childhood to maintain closeness with unpredictable caregivers.

Emotional intensity reflects attachment alarm.

When connection feels uncertain, the attachment system activates strongly - creating hypervigilance to tone, messages and relational shifts.

Therapy focuses on containment and mentalisation.

Slowing down emotional overwhelm allows clients to move from pure emotional activation toward reflective thinking.

Boundaries create safety

Maintaining consistent boundaries is a crucial part of providing a secure therapeutic base.

00:00 Introduction to the Attach Together Podcast
02:10 What Is Preoccupied Attachment?
04:50 Fear of Abandonment in Attachment Styles
07:00 How Anxious Ambivalent Attachment Develops
10:20 The “Full Fridge” Metaphor Explained
11:27 Working With Preoccupied Clients in Therapy
13:40 Slowing Down Emotional Overwhelm
16:00 Repetition and Circular Narratives in Therapy
18:20 Boundaries With Preoccupied Clients
20:05 Therapist Dilemma: The Doorknob Confession
22:20 Maintaining Boundaries in Session
24:50 Why Boundaries Matter for Clients
25:20 Closing Reflections

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• Optima Level 5 & Level 7 Diplomas in Attachment Theory & Attachment-Based Psychotherapy
• Bowlby - Attachment Theory

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In this episode of Attach Together, we explore one of the most misunderstood attachment styles: avoidant attachment.

What does avoidant attachment really mean from an attachment theory perspective? How does it show up in the therapy room? And how can therapists build connection without overwhelming clients who experience closeness as unsafe?

Darren and Georgina unpack:

• How avoidant attachment develops in early caregiving environments
• Why “independence” can actually be compulsive self-reliance
• The emotional cost of being praised for stoicism
• What therapists feel in the room (countertransference clues)
• Humour, intellectualising and distance as protective strategies
• How to work slowly and relationally to build safety
• When boundary-testing may signal growth, not resistance

Drawing on attachment theory, relational practice and insights from John Bowlby and Stan Tatkin, this episode offers grounded, practical reflections for counsellors, psychotherapists, psychologists and trainees.

If you’ve ever felt deskilled, distanced or unsure how to “reach” an avoidant client - this conversation will reassure and guide you.

What Avoidant Attachment Really Is
Not procrastination. Not laziness. But a protective relational strategy shaped by early experiences where emotions felt unsafe or unwelcome.

Clues in the Therapy Room
Flat affect, humour, intellectualising, minimising, brief communication - and the therapist’s own felt sense of distance.

Why We Must Go Slowly
Building safety may mean resisting the urge to “go to feelings” too quickly.

Compulsive Self-Reliance vs True Independence
How attachment patterns are reinforced by societal praise - and the hidden emotional cost.

Boundaries & Contact Between Sessions
Why an avoidant client reaching out may represent relational growth - and how to respond in an attachment-informed way.

00:00 – Introduction to the Attachment & Relationships Podcast
02:00 – What is Avoidant Attachment?
05:00 – Why Avoidant Clients Rarely Seek Therapy
08:00 – Building Safety Before Emotion
11:00 – Humour, Deflection & Therapist Spidey Senses
15:00 – Compulsive Self-Reliance Explained
18:00 – Moving Beyond Defences
21:00 – Dilemma: Clients Contacting You Between Sessions
25:00 – Attachment-Informed Boundaries
28:00 – Level 5 & Level 7 Diplomas in Attachment-Based Psychotherapy

• Optima Level 5 & Level 7 Diplomas in Attachment Theory & Attachment-Based Psychotherapy
• Restoring Your Secure Base: Attachment-Informed Therapist Retreat

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In this episode of Attach Together, Darren is joined by Jo Oxley (founder of Optima) to unpack one of the most important concepts in attachment-informed practice: internal working models (also called inner working models).

Jo explains models are formed and become an unconscious “blueprint” for how we experience ourselves, other people, and relationships. With a wonderfully accessible metaphor (yes, Inside Out makes an appearance), They explore how secure beginnings can build a sense of worth and safety, and how inconsistent or emotionally unavailable care can lead to avoidant or preoccupied strategies in later life.

They discuss why shame and fear often sit underneath insecure attachment patterns, and how therapy supports change by building new relational experiences - creating “new pathways” that can gradually replace old default routes.

This episode is a grounded, practical listen for counsellors, psychotherapists, trainees, and anyone wanting to understand how attachment patterns show up in real life -and how they can be updated.

• What are Internal Working Models?
  Understand models as unconscious templates formed through attachment experiences -shaping expectations of self, other, and relationship.
• Secure vs Insecure: How Early Experiences Become a Blueprint
  Explore how attuned caregiving tends to support confidence and exploration, and how emotional unavailability or inconsistency can shape threat-based expectations.
• Avoidant Strategies: “I’ll Cope on My Own”
  How avoidant patterns develop as a protective strategy when care is unreliable, and why shame can sit underneath self-reliance.
• Preoccupied Strategies: Fear, Hypervigilance, and Reassurance-Seeking
  Understand inconsistency fuels uncertainty and alarm, often leading to clinging, protest, and push–pull relational dynamics.
• How Therapy Helps Update IWM
  Why change happens in relationship — and how repeated new experiences can build new neural pathways (the “new path through the woods” idea).
• Therapist Dilemma: When a Client is Distressed by Friendship Breakdown
  A short reflection on working with relational rupture, meaning-making, and bringing patterns into awareness through the body and the therapeutic relationship.

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