Attraction and retention of good staff is already a challenge. Then add an alleged post-pandemic 'great resignation' and it's looking insurmountable. One firm going against the tide is US firm Herbein + Co, Inc enjoying low turnover rates and high levels of unsolicited employment applications in contrast to many in the accounting world. In this podcast, Herbein's Managing Partner David Stonesifer shares the strategies and culture making a difference in their firm with Mindshop Founder and Chairman Dr Chris Mason. Dave talks about the importance of mutual respect, having an understanding that sometimes life gets in the way and why being a 'destination employer' is about giving employees a voice, getting professional accountants to do the talking and maybe handing out a swag or two.