Scott MacArthur and Chris Leroux hosting: on the Blue Jays' outing vs. the Yankees, how the loss is a microcosm of what the team is right now, the team's pitching situation and how it appears there aren't any truly serviceable starters, Mark Shapiro's comments yesterday on making a push to start winning, and how the messaging was nice to hear; Sportsnet.ca's Ben Nicholson-Smith joins in-studio and discusses whether Shapiro's comments show that he understands the front office has to peel back the curtain a tad for fans, the disconnect between fans and the front office, their committment to this rebuild, the contrast between the two and Alex Anthopoulos, and why the Jays need to sign decent pitchers this off-season.