Positive Disintegration Podcast

Authenticity, Community, and Creative Unmasking


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In Episode 75, Chris and Emma were joined by Gordon Smith, a Licensed Clinical Mental Health Counselor, Coach, and Creative from Gifted and Growing in Asheville, NC. Together, they explore how community, creativity, and authenticity support the journey of positive disintegration.

Gordon shares how his rediscovery of giftedness helped him make sense of his life and deepen his work with clients. The conversation dives into the challenges of unmasking in front of others—especially family—and how the safety of group spaces can empower people to become more fully themselves. Gordon introduces his unique group offerings and the powerful “Magnum Opus” exercise that facilitates self-discovery through poetry and flow state.

This episode touches on key Dabrowskian themes, including the transformation of internalized shame, the shedding of masks, the role of community in personal growth, and how creative practices support authenticity. We reflect on how our disintegrations have unfolded and offer heartfelt encouragement for listeners on their journeys.

Topics Include:

* Gordon’s journey back to giftedness and the theory of positive disintegration

* The importance of self-knowing and depathologizing difference

* Creating safe spaces for unmasking and self-expression

* Using creativity and community to support growth

* Reflections on grief, parenting, and nervous system healing

* How discovering language for our experiences can be transformative

Resources from this episode

* Visit Gordon’s website: Giftedandgrowing.org

* Gordon Smith, LPC (Facebook)

* More about Yunasa

Connect with us

* Positive Disintegration on Substack

* Visit the Dabrowski Center website

* Facebook

* Instagram

* The Positive Disintegration YouTube Channel

* Adults with Overexcitabilities group on Facebook

* The Tragic Gift blog by Emma

* Email us at [email protected]

* Please consider donating to the Dabrowski Center, a 501(c)(3) nonprofit.

* Find Positive Disintegration Merch

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