What happens when a centuries-old healing tradition collides with Western ideas of medicine, science and proof?
In this edition of Author Conversations, broadcast journalist Chris Dabbs speaks with Dr Scott M Taubold, author of The System of Healing Used by the Filipino Espiritistas.He discusses the history of what Western observers came to call “psychic surgery”, the role of trance and spiritual belief and the place traditional healers can occupy alongside conventional medicine. Originally developed from Dr Taubold’s doctoral research, the book explores the healing practices of Filipino Espiritistas — practitioners whose traditions combine indigenous approaches, spirituality, cultural belief and influences including Christianity.
During the conversation, Dr Taubold explains how his interest began after moving to Hawaii, becoming immersed in Filipino culture and later travelling regularly to the Philippines.
The conversation also examines the difficult boundary between
observation, belief and scientific evidence. Dr Taubold describes experiences he says he witnessed personally but acknowledges the challenges involved in scientifically proving or disproving such phenomena.
Chris and Dr Scott discuss:
• Why Filipino Espiritista healing became internationally known as “psychic surgery”
• The influence of indigenous Filipino traditions and Christianity
• Scott’s doctoral research and experiences in the Philippines
• Folk healers and their role within local communities
• The relationship between belief, placebo effects and mind-body medicine
• Claims of unusual healing experiences and the limits of scientific investigation
• Why traditional healing practices can disappear as cultures change
• Whether conventional and complementary approaches to health can coexist
• What Scott hopes readers will take from his research
This conversation explores the subject as a cultural, historical and personal account. Experiences and medical or healing claims discussed by the guest should not be interpreted as medical advice or as a substitute for diagnosis or treatment from an appropriately qualified healthcare professional. ABOUT THE GUEST Dr Scott M Taubold is the author of
The System of Healing Used by the Filipino Espiritistas, a work developed from his academic research into Filipino healing traditions.
His interest grew through his experience of Filipino culture, family connections to the Philippines and research into complementary, alternative and mind-body approaches to healing.
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Scott Taubold: psychicsurgery.net
CONTENT / MEDICAL DISCLAIMERThis programme discusses traditional, complementary and spiritual healing practices and includes personal experiences and opinions expressed by the guest. These claims have not necessarily been established through conventional scientific evidence. Nothing in this episode constitutes medical advice and listeners should consult an appropriately qualified healthcare professional regarding medical conditions or treatment.ABOUT THE PROGRAMME Author Conversations with Chris Dabbs is a long-form interview programme featuring authors, writers and thinkers discussing the stories, ideas and experiences behind their work.
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- 00:00 – Introduction: Dr Scott M Taubold and Filipino Espiritista healing
- 00:38 – What is “psychic surgery”?
- 01:52 – Charlatans, sleight of hand and the placebo effect
- 03:31 – How Scott first became interested in the subject
- 04:39 – Hawaii, Filipino culture and the beginnings of his research
- 06:40 – Turning the subject into a doctoral dissertation
- 07:03 – Scott’s first trip to the Philippines
- 08:06 – How traditional healing fits into Filipino healthcare
- 10:40 – Indigenous traditions, Catholicism and cultural influence
- 13:22 – What Scott says he witnessed during his research
- 15:08 – Spiritual explanations and the limits of scientific proof
- 16:23 – Scott’s own experience of receiving treatment
- 17:28 – What he hopes readers take from the book
- 18:26 – Alternative medicine and conventional healthcare
- 21:27 – Cultural differences and broadening our view of healing
- 22:19 – Mind-body medicine and psychological factors in recovery
- 24:24 – Final thoughts and where to find the book
- 25:26 – Outro
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