Your hosts speak with author Leslye Penelope about her new novel, The Monsters We Defy. They discuss the highs and lows of the 1920s, the delight of heists, and the real-world inspiration behind the main character. They also cover ghosts, romance, and strong third-person POV. This episode contains a Words Are Weird about the slang use of the word “heifer”.

Thanks to the following musicians for the use of their songs:

- Amarià for the use of “Sérénade à Notre Dame de Paris”
- Josh Woodward for the use of “Electric Sunrise”

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