"The steady day job with the constant salary that was predictable, in my comfort zone, that was covering of the basic needs, the safety, that kind of thing. But I'm getting to the point now at the age of 47 where I need to shoot for the self actualization bit of the top of the pyramid. And really do something that will be memorable to me, and where I will really feel like I made a big difference", says Charlie Hart. Charlie joins this episode to discuss transitioning to a career as an HR Inclusion specialist, problems with the interview process, and how the best employers help their employees thrive. To learn more about Charlie visit https://charlieausomehart.wordpress.com.

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