In this episode of On The Line join Jen Gerson as she delves into a fascinating conversation with Professor Avi Loeb, a renowned astrophysicist, about the mysteries of interstellar objects and the possibility of extraterrestrial intelligence.

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Leob is best known for his work arguing for the possibility that many recently discovered interstellar objects, like  Oumuamua may, in fact, be extraterrestrial in origin. Either space trash from a distant civilization or even an intelligent probe. He's back in the news this week with thoughts about a recently discovered object now heading toward our sun known as 3I/ATLAS. 

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Oh, and he has some things to say about academia and the general incuriosity of the scientific establishment.  Discover insights into the scientific community's approach to anomalies, the potential of alien technology, and the importance of maintaining curiosity in the face of skepticism.