B2B Marketers on a Mission

In an increasingly competitive business environment inundated with digital noise, relying on “play it safe” tactics will only result in your brand drowning in a sea of sameness. The path to true differentiation, innovation, and standing out is not an easy one as it requires a significant mindset shift. For B2B marketing initiatives to succeed, you must create room for experimentation and data-driven discovery. How can B2B marketers approach this effectively and secure internal buy-in for it? That’s why we’re talking to Vincent Weberink (Founder, Pzaz.io), who shares expert insights and proven strategies on how a growth mindset drives B2B marketing success. In this episode, Vincent talked about why design experiments are crucial in B2B marketing and highlighted the need for structured, data-driven growth experimentation. He shared his proven methodology consisting of ideation, ranking, and rapid prototyping designed to quickly and effectively validate concepts. Vincent also shared some common B2B marketing pitfalls that teams should avoid and emphasized the value of iterative testing and learning. He broke down how teams can build an entrepreneurial mindset and get internal buy-in for experimentation-driven B2B marketing.

How to Leverage Storytelling for B2B Marketing Success 

We hear it time and time again in the B2B marketing world: You must differentiate your brand and specialize in order to stand out in a highly competitive business environment. B2B companies should master the art of storytelling, craft a unique message, and sell authentically without pressure, cringeworthy small talk, or competing solely on price. So how can B2B companies achieve this, and what role can the marketing team play?

That’s why we’re talking to Matthew Pollard(Founder,Rapid Growth®), who shares expert insights and proven strategies on how to leverage storytelling for B2B marketing success. During our conversation, Matthew discussed the significance of storytelling and specialization in B2B marketing. He also emphasized the need for differentiation in B2B companies by focusing on a specific niche rather than targeting everyone. Matthew highlighted the importance of creating a unified brand message that appeals to the target audience, and advised companies to remove generic content from their websites. He elaborated on how B2B companies can leverage their unique skills and insights, shared common pitfalls to avoid, and how marketers can help define their business’s specialty and value proposition to improve their B2B marketing strategy.

https://youtu.be/W-G4-SvFRyg 

Topics discussed in episode:

[2:35] Why specialization is the key to success in B2B marketing

[10:17] A story of how Matt helped a client develop a “Unified Message” that effectively transformed her business

[12:21] Common pitfalls B2B marketers face when specializing:

– Tendency to focus on one’s own interests rather than the client’s needs

– Trying to appeal to everyone

[20:10] The role of functional skills and unique market insights in driving differentiation

[31:21] Actionable steps B2B companies can take to create the differentiation and specialization that will set them apart from their competitors

Companies and links mentioned:

• Matthew Pollard on LinkedIn
• Rapid Growth®
• Download the Rapid Growth template
• Download the first chapter of The Introvert’s Edge

Transcript 

Christian Klepp  00:00 

We hear it time and time again. In B2B you need to differentiate your brand and specialize in order to stand out in a highly competitive business environment, B2B companies need to master the art of storytelling, craft a unique message and sell authentically without pressure, cringe worthy small talk industry jargon or competing on price. So how do B2B companies do this, and what role can the marketing team play? Welcome to this episode of the B2B Marketer in the Mission podcast, and I’m your host, Christian Klepp. Today, I’ll be talking to Matthew Pollard, who will be answering this question. He’s a recognized growth expert, author and an award winning speaker who’s out to prove that storytelling will sell more than facts ever will tune in to find out more about what this B2B marketers mission is. 

Christian Klepp  00:51 

Okay. I’m gonna say. Matthew Pollard, welcome to the show, sir. 

Matthew Pollard  00:54 

Mate. I’m excited to be here. Thanks for having me on. 

Christian Klepp  00:57 

I mean, you know, we’ve been on a pre interview call a couple of weeks ago, and we got on like a house on fire. I kind of feel like I’ve known you for like, 30 years or something like that. 

Matthew Pollard  01:08 

No, I’m glad. I’m glad we got a chance to meet when I was 11. It was a big defining moment for me. 

Christian Klepp  01:14 

Fair enough, fair enough. 

Matthew Pollard  01:18 

I guess if, if you didn’t have a Canadian accent, I didn’t have an Australian accent, right? 

Christian Klepp  01:22 

Yes, yes. There is that too. There is that too. But Matthew, really excited to have you on the show. I’m really looking forward to this conversation, because we’re going to dive into stuff that you are clearly very passionate about. But that aside, I think we’re going to discuss a topic that I think is highly relevant in the world of B2B marketing. So I’m going to keep the audience in suspense just a couple of seconds longer as we dive into the first question. All right. Okay, fantastic. So Matthew, you’re known as the Rapid Growth Guy, and you’re on a mission to transform 1000s of struggling or plateaued businesses into momentum and growth. So for this conversation, let’s zero in on the topic of how B2B companies can create differentiation and specialization. It sounds like such a pedestrian thing, but it’s amazing. And I’m sure you’re going to talk about this at length in a second. It’s amazing how many companies are still getting this wrong. So I’m going to kick off the conversation with the following question, so if memory serves me well, in our previous conversation, you mentioned that if B2B, companies and their marketing teams can specialize, they can generate more clients. So can you elaborate on that a little bit more please? 

Matthew Pollard  02:35 

Yeah, absolutely. I think that the reason I use the word specialized rather than niching is a lot of people have in their mind that niching is this thing that everybody knows that they should do but doesn’t work for them. And while, of course, they’re wrong, they’ve created a bunch of really great excuses in their mind for why that is. And so that the best example I can give you is I worked with an insurance guy who also dabbled in wealth management, and he would go to networking events all the time, and he would talk to them, and he learned how to be interested before being interesting, which is heavily important when it comes to networking. And he did his research as well. I mean, he read my books and other people’s books, and really mastered that piece. But what he said when people reached out to him was also when, when people asked him what it was that he did, he would respond that he was in insurance. And it was like their eyes almost exploded. It was like, How do I get away from this person? They knew that they were, they were going to get this massive sales pitch. And I said, Look, Nick we’ve got to step away from you commoditizing yourself like that. As soon as you say insurance. People know what that is. They put it in a bucket. It’s like me saying I’m a sales trainer. They put me in a bucket. They’re like, most people think that sales training, you know, a lot of people feel like sales people are scam artists. So they’re like, You know what? I don’t have anything to do with you. But they’re but then the opposite is, if I say I’m in marketing, people go, Oh, I need marketing. How much do you cost? Right? Neither are positive. But when you say you’re an insurance salesman, or you’re an insurance people know that the word salesman was the next thing that was supposed to come out. So because of that, they’re trying to work out how to get away from you. And so we need to look at how you can sidestep what people think they know about your...

How to Create Powerful B2B Messaging That Converts

In today’s competitive B2B marketing landscape, where trust gaps are widening, convincing and demonstrating to a buying committee that you’re the right partner has become more challenging than ever before. It requires a deeper understanding of a company’s challenges, the demand triggers, the selection process, and decision-making dynamics. So how can marketers craft B2B messaging that influences and engages with every member of the buying committee?

That’s why we’re talking to Doug Abbott (CEO, Contrasted Marketing), who shares proven strategies on how to create powerful B2B messaging that converts. During our conversation, Doug discussed the importance of B2B marketers tailoring messaging to address the specific concerns, needs, and priorities of the different buying committee members. He also emphasized the value of audience-led messaging and recommended leveraging internal and external research to develop a robust messaging matrix. Doug shared some common mistakes and warned against relying solely on AI for messaging. He also explained why human expertise and strategic differentiation are paramount to crafting messaging that truly stands out.

https://youtu.be/XltT_ALUGLI 

Topics discussed in episode:

[2:04] The importance of targeting different members of the buying committee in B2B marketing

[2:45] Where most marketing teams struggle regarding the buying committee

[4:08] How to craft effective messaging tailored to different buyer personas

[5:17] Key pitfalls B2B marketers need to avoid when approaching the buying committee—and what to do instead:

1. Focus on audience-led messaging over product-led messaging
2. Research and identify pain points
3. Segment the audience and target based on needs
4. Position the products to address the pain points and needs

[11:00] Strategic positioning and how to influence the buying committee

[14:46] The role of AI in messaging and competitive analysis

[22:51] Actionable tips for B2B marketers on improving the effectiveness of messaging:

1. Identify the buying committee members 
2. Understanding their pain points through customer and sales insights
3. Build a messaging matrix to align messaging with the specific needs of each buying committee member
4. Test the messaging through A/B testing

Companies and links mentioned:

• Doug Abbott on LinkedIn
• Contrasted Marketing
• G2
• Capterra
• ChatGPT

Transcript 

Christian Klepp  00:00 

We all know that in B2B marketing, convincing and demonstrating to a buying committee that you are the right partner and company of choice is no small feat. It requires a deeper understanding of a company’s challenges, the demand triggers, how they buy, how they make decisions, and their selection criteria. So how can B2B marketers develop the right messaging that speaks to different members of the buying committee. Welcome to this episode of the B2B Marketers on a Mission podcast, and I’m your host, Christian Klepp. Today, I’ll be talking to Douglas Abbott, who will be answering this question. He’s the CEO and Founder at Contrasted, which helps B2B companies not only generate leads, but also get the right results. Tune in to find out more about what this B2B marketers mission is. All right, and I’m gonna say, Mr. Douglas Abbott, welcome to the show. 

Douglas Abbott  00:55 

Thanks. Great to be here. 

Christian Klepp  00:57 

Great to have you on the show. Douglas, I’m really looking for this conversation, because, man, this is something that I think B2B marketing teams really need to pay more attention to. Let’s not keep the audience in suspense for too long. Let’s just dive right into the topic. If we can, let’s do it all. Right, fantastic. Okay, so Douglas, you’re, I’m gonna say you’re on a mission to combine strategy, execution and proprietary AI to drive real pipeline. But for this conversation, I’d like to focus on the topic of how B2B marketers can develop messaging that speaks to different members of the buying committee. And I know a lot of people, they probably glaze over that, or they probably feel that that’s someone else’s job, but I have been in situations as I’m sure you have, where I’ve seen that go, all right, right, so let’s kick off the conversation with two questions, and I’m happy to repeat them. Okay, so question number one is, why do you think it’s so important for B2B marketers to understand who the different members of the buying committee are? And number two, where do you see most marketing teams struggle regarding the above? 

Douglas Abbott  02:04 

Yeah, so you know, I think the reason it’s so important is that in most of these, you know, large B2B purchase decisions, it’s going to touch multiple departments. So you know, those decisions to buy a product like they rarely rest with one person. There is the buying committee. So when you talk about the buying committee, you know each person is going to care about different outcomes, and they’re going to want different things from a product, from a software. So, you know, the CFO might want cost efficiency, the head of ops might want usability. The CIO might care about how it integrates with their current tech stack. 

Douglas Abbott  02:45 

So and I think where I see people struggle is that they will focus on a generic message that might be relevant to an organization, but they’re not actually speaking to the needs and outcomes that those individual members of the buying committee want. 

Christian Klepp  03:04 

Yeah, yeah, no, that’s absolutely right. It’s, it’s this whole, I hate to use this, because I feel it’s so overused, but like, one size fits all right. Like, it’s one of these. Like, okay, well, let’s just have this very top level generic messaging that that appeals to everybody. But yeah, guess what? No, it does not to your point. It’s the CFO. One of my favorite people is, yeah, is going to look at something? It’s going to look at it from a different lens, as compared to somebody who’s in operations, who is in procurement. I imagine procurement, slash purchasing. Who is in it, or the CSOs, etc, etc, right? So… 

Douglas Abbott  03:48 

Yeah, yeah, exactly. 

Christian Klepp  03:50 

Okay. And why? Why do you think it’s all so based on, based on that and based on understanding that all of these people have different roles and responsibilities. What role will the marketing team have to play in investigating and finding out who those people are and what they’re looking for? As a follow up question. 

Douglas Abbott  04:08 

The marketing team should know who, everyone in the organization should know who the members of the buying committee are. If that’s not happening, then you know the marketing team should be talking to leadership, to sales, to everyone about, you know, understanding who those people are when it comes to, you know, marketing’s role. Th...