Outcome-Based Selling sounds powerful - but most sales transformation efforts stall because organizations still think like product companies. In this episode, we unpack what it really takes to shift from product selling to true customer centricity and enterprise sales strategy.
In this episode of the B2B Sales Trends Podcast, Harry Kendlbacher sits down with Michael Oren, SVP Americas Sales at Dematic, to explore the uncomfortable truth behind outcome-based selling and sales transformation inside enterprise environments.
This is not theory. Itโs lived experience - from Xerox to Dematic - across real organizations, real customers, and real accountability.
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00:00 โ Outcome-Based Selling vs product mindset
04:15 โ The โsolution sellingโ illusion in B2B sales
09:30 โ Enterprise sales strategy: where execution breaks
15:40 โ Sales accountability in long implementation cycles
21:10 โ Leading sales transformation without chaos
27:00 โ Consistency, courage & patience in sales leadership
Youโll learn:
- Why many โconsultative sellingโ models still operate with a product mindset
- What sales leadership must change to drive true customer centricity
- How sales accountability shifts in multi-year enterprise sales strategy
- Why value-based selling requires operating model change - not just new language
๐ก Key Takeaways
- If your solution story collapses without your product at the center, youโre not selling solutions
- Sales transformation fails in the โmessy middleโ - not at kickoff
- Outcome-based selling requires courage to change metrics, roles, and funding
- Enterprise sales strategy must optimize around customer outcomes - not product features
- Leadership consistency, courage, and patience determine whether transformation sticks
About Guest
Michael Oren is SVP Americas Sales at Dematic, a global leader in warehouse automation. Formerly EVP of Global Services at Xerox, he has led large-scale commercial reinvention - from product selling to services-led, outcome-based models. Michael specializes in sales transformation, enterprise sales strategy, and aligning sales culture to customer outcomes.
Connect with Michael on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaeloren/
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