Hugh Mackay in conversation with Helen Vatsikopoulos around his latest book, 'Just Saying'.
In Just Saying, one of Australia’s most trusted social commentators, Hugh Mackay, turns his sharp but
compassionate gaze to the state of our national psyche. From loneliness and social division to kindness, trust and the small acts that shape community life, Mackay explores what truly matters in
unsettled times.