Brad Zerbo hosts a powerful and emotional conversation with FDNY Captain Mike, who shares his firsthand experience of 9/11. From losing his cousin, Chief Charlie Casper, to the haunting aftermath of the towers’ collapse, Mike recounts the chaos, bravery, and devastation that shaped that day and its long shadow. He explains how FDNY protocols never prepared firefighters for a full structural collapse, reflects on survivor’s guilt, and recalls the patriotism that was weaponized in the months after. The two also discuss Brad’s documentary Codex 9/11, how it reshaped Mike’s understanding of what really happened, and why controlled narratives kept so many in the dark. With raw honesty, Mike connects the manipulation of 9/11 to later crises like COVID, drawing parallels in fear, propaganda, and public compliance. This moving testimony blends personal loss, professional insight, and hard truths, offering listeners both closure and a call to keep questioning.