In this episode, our host Josh Baer speaks with guest Barbara Castelli, President of the legendary Castelli Gallery for the past twenty five years. In part one of the conversation, Castelli discusses her origins with the gallery, the importance of her late husband Leo Castelli’s legacy, and how Barbara’s sharp vision—alongside the trust of her artists and buyers—has carried and shaped the gallery into the present day.

Then, tune in as Castelli shares lessons learned from twenty five years at Castelli Gallery, how she navigates the idiosyncratic nature of conceptual art, and what makes a work truly “important” when it hits the market.

In part three of the conversation, Baer and Castelli dive deep into how the gallery model has changed in the 2020s, the re-evaluation of the Western art canon, and the finicky nature of “taste” when it comes to collecting art.