In Episode 32 of Barefaced Chat, Kelly is joined by semi-permanent makeup artist and beauty-business owner Jo Kilburn.

Jo shares her journey into semi-permanent makeup, the realities of working within the industry and what clients should understand before choosing a treatment or artist.

Kelly and Jo discuss the skill, responsibility and trust involved in semi-permanent makeup, as well as the effect these treatments can have on confidence and how people feel about themselves.

Jo also talks about building The Beauty Room, running a beauty salon and navigating the challenges of growing a business while moving through difficult periods in her personal life.

The conversation explores divorce, spirituality, resilience and Jo’s next chapter as part of the Renew Wellness collective at Renew Medical Aesthetics.

Topics include:

• What semi-permanent makeup involves  

An honest conversation about beauty, business, confidence and the deeper human stories behind the treatments.

In this episode of Barefaced Chat, Kelly is joined by Heather Lilley for an honest conversation about women’s health, chronic pain, lifestyle change and the pressure to keep going.

Heather shares her experience of making significant changes in her life and returning to academia as a PhD researcher in Sports & Exercise Sciences at Manchester Metropolitan University.

Together, Kelly and Heather explore the expectations often placed on women, the deeply human experience of living with chronic pain, and what can happen when your body begins asking you to live differently.

They discuss resilience, identity, health, ambition and the courage it can take to make meaningful change.

Topics include:

• Women’s health and societal expectations

An open and thoughtful conversation about health, change and learning to listen to yourself differently.

In this episode of Barefaced Chat, we sit down with Dr Nicholas Craven for an insightful conversation all about dermatology, skin health, and what we should really be paying attention to when it comes to our skin.

We explore everything from moles and sun spots to ageing, prevention, and the signs people often overlook. Dr Craven explains what dermatology actually involves, what to look out for on your own skin, and why awareness and early attention can make such a difference.

This episode is an approachable and informative conversation designed to help people better understand their skin — without fear, confusion, or overwhelm.

💬 In this episode we discuss:

• What dermatology actually is

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In this episode of Barefaced Chat, we sit down with Ava to explore what it really means to build a business at a young age — and how that journey shapes your identity along the way.

Ava shares her experience navigating the world of medical aesthetics, from laser treatments to the realities of working within a fast-evolving industry. We talk about the challenges of growing a business while still discovering who you are, and how personal identity and professional ambition often become intertwined.

The conversation also dives into the wider industry — including awareness, regulation, and where medical aesthetics is heading in the future.

This is a conversation about ambition, responsibility, and finding your place in an industry that’s still defining itself.

In this episode of Barefaced Chat, we sit down with Louise for an honest and thoughtful conversation around leadership, motherhood, and what it really means to navigate both.

Louise shares her journey in business and how her approach to leadership has evolved alongside her life as a mother. We explore the realities behind the scenes — the responsibilities, the emotional weight, and the constant balancing act that comes with trying to show up fully in every area of life.

We also touch on her experience as a parent, raising a child who requires additional support, and how this has shaped her perspective, resilience, and understanding of what truly matters.

This is a conversation about being a holistic businesswoman, embracing complexity, and redefining what success looks like — both professionally and personally.

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In this episode of Barefaced Chat, we sit down with Kerice to talk about confidence, career, and the journey of truly earning your place.

Kerice shares her early life experiences and how they shaped her identity, alongside the realities of building confidence over time — not being given it, but growing into it.

We also explore the choices we make along the way, from career paths to personal decisions, including the aesthetic ‘tweakments’ that keep her coming back to clinic — and what they really mean beyond the surface.

This is a conversation about self-development, identity, and owning your journey, whatever path you take.

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In this episode of Barefaced Chat, we sit down with Laura for a deeply honest conversation around trauma, intuition, and the journey back to self.

Laura shares her personal experience with trauma and how it shaped her understanding of identity, healing, and emotional resilience. We explore what it really means to reconnect with your intuition, trust yourself again, and begin the process of self-transformation.

This episode touches on the complexities of healing, the importance of self-awareness, and how discovering your own self-worth can change everything.

If you’ve ever felt disconnected from yourself, questioned your inner voice, or are navigating your own healing journey — this conversation is for you.

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In this episode of Barefaced Chat, we sit down with Kim for a raw and honest conversation about the journey beneath the surface.

From her personal skin journey to deeper reflections on self-worth, relationships, and identity, this episode explores what it really means to feel comfortable in your own skin — both physically and emotionally.

We talk about the pressures we carry, the stories we tell ourselves, and the truth behind how we see ourselves and others.

This is a conversation about vulnerability, growth, and reconnecting with who you truly are.

If you’ve ever questioned your worth, your relationships, or your reflection — this one will resonate deeply.

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In this episode of Barefaced Chat, Kelly sits down with Karle to explore the powerful relationship between food, brain health, and self-care.

Together they unpack the rise of ultra-processed foods in modern culture and how our relationship with food has shifted in ways that impact not only our physical health, but our cognitive wellbeing too.

This conversation looks beyond diet trends and quick fixes, asking a deeper question: what if nourishment was one of the most meaningful forms of self-love?

From understanding the effects of modern food systems to reconnecting with how we truly fuel ourselves, this episode invites a more thoughtful and compassionate approach to the way we eat.

💬 In this episode we explore:

The impact of ultra-processed foods on modern health

Food and cognitive wellbeing

Nourishment as a form of self-care

Rebuilding a healthier relationship with food

How modern culture has shaped our diets

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In this episode, Sam joins Kelly to talk about menopause, regenerative PRP medicine, and what it means to reconnect with your sexuality.

From the science to the emotional journey of “dating yourself,” this conversation explores confidence, identity, and empowerment at midlife and beyond.