In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe talks with Steve Chalke all about how we can create beauty out of brokenness. Together, they explore the philosophy held within the art of kintsugi.

And they recognise that we can often live life pursuing perfection, desperate for a life without scars. And we can have an insatiable appetite for both being and looking perfect. Yet by changing our way of seeing and believing and having the courage and humility to learn through and from our scars and broken parts, we can be transformed, making us better. Not bitter. 

This is a precious episode. We pray it helps you to keep on your journey of growth and goodness.

Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).

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