Different with Steve Chalke and Jill Rowe

In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe talks with Steve Chalke about a restoration revolution. They chat about the criminal justice system and what needs to be different, and they talk about how certain young people are ending up in that system, and the urgent need for a new way of doing things.

They call for a restoration revolution, working therapeutically with young people, so that they can be prepared and ready for a life that is more meaningful and whole. This is such an important and vital conversation for all of us.

The Restoration Revolution

Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).

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In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe talks with Steve Chalke about what is the 'good life'. They chat about how it is more of an attitude than a destination, and they consider what it means to make yourself small when the world screams you need to be big and you need to be dominant.

From Carl Jung to AA, from disruption to growth. And to the power of the words, "Do not be afraid," they cover a lot of ground in this episode, and it was worth it for sure.

Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).

This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood.

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In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe talks with Steve Chalke about what on earth being Christ-centered means, as an organization and at an individual level. They explore the misconception that Jesus was Christian and dive deeply into the way of life all humanity is invited to live, loving God and loving others as we love ourselves.

They talk about what a Christ-centered movement looks like and how leadership should show up built on this way, rejecting hierarchical power and choosing servanthood. This episode undoes a whole heap of misunderstandings.

Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).

This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood.

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In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe talks with Steve Chalke about reclaiming kindness. They discuss the impact of choosing kindness over hate, and the life-changing power it has on health and well-being.

They celebrate the sheer enormity of kindness and generosity in the world. Despite the media causing us to think kindness has gone missing, and they think through the ways that reclaiming kindness can happen through everyday actions, and they acknowledge the need to be intentional, choosing loving kindness even when anger, rage, and selfishness seem much easier options.

This was an energizing and life-affirming conversation. We hope it will be for you too.

Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).

This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood.

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In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe talks with Steve Chalke about getting to 'the thing behind the thing'. They discuss how easy it is to not go upstream and discover the root causes of the challenges we can face, both personally and societally.

They explore how we can get trapped in a cycle of reacting rather than finding lasting solutions and building the inclusion and belonging required and the bravery needed. And they dive deeper into the significance and place of spirituality at the heart of those lasting solutions, challenging the notion that spirituality is just a side hustle.

Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).

This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood.

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In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe talks with Steve Chalke about what on earth prayer is and how they can make sense of it in a chaotic and unpredictable world where so much just seems wild.

They discuss how misunderstood prayer can be and explore the richness of it as a practise and and a way of life. They think of it as an exercise for transforming our thinking rather than twisting the arm of the divine.

And they recognise it as a statement of commitment, the clue always being in the Amen. This was an eye opening conversation and a realisation of what can shift when we are really paying attention.

Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).

This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood.

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In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe talks with Steve Chalke about grief and loss. They acknowledge that this is an experience that we all go through and is such a, part of the roller coaster of life.

They know joy and pain, loss and gain, celebration and sadness. So together, they chat about how we can navigate all of this, helping one another, from what can feel like utter lostness, to discovering hope from the different elements of grief, the wisdom of Psalm 23, all the way to creating legacy.

This was a very tender and important conversation.

Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).

This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood.

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In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe talks with Steve Chalke about the questions we ask trying to find home. They discuss those searching questions that have been asked for thousands of years.

Questions of human longing: Am I of worth? Do I matter? Is there a God? And does that God love me? They recognise just how important it is to stop and notice these curious longings when we are experiencing them.

They get onto Maslow and try to debunk some of the misunderstandings and misconceptions about what Maslow said and believe. And they talk about the four S's: seen, safe, soothed and secure, and how these reflect the deep questions we have.

And they look to the story of the Prodigal Son that Jesus told where we see how important it is to come to our senses and see where and what home actually is.

Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).

This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood.

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In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe talks with Steve Chalke about how God can get hijacked for violence and war. Theye end up exploring how sacred texts can be so easily misinterpreted.

And they discuss how important it is for anyone who reads and references them to interrogate them and do the hard work of understanding. And they uncover, how, when we understand the books of the Bible this way, you can't help but get to the way of love.

They go deep in this episode. They needed to. This stuff really matters. We hope it helps you go deeper too.

Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).

This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood.

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In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe talks with Steve Chalke about some major misconceptions. It all starts with an experience walking down Oxford Street and being left with a multitude of questions.

They dive into words like repent and sinner and what they meant at the time of Jesus in 1st century Palestine. They talk about the courage to think differently and to challenge our assumptions, and they go on to explore how those with power can use narratives to control.

They even try to unpack the influence of the Mediaeval Church and a novel by Dante that have shaped so much understanding and theology today. This is a big conversation that covers some big ideas that we believe we must wrestle with and when we do, it literally changes everything.

Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).

This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood.

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.