In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe talks with Steve Chalke all about the wonder of ambiguity, starting from observing a Spanish Town Square in a power cut, all the way to how we can develop the ability to find our way in the dark when we aren't feeling sure at all. 

So much of life is navigated in ambiguity. So together, we chat about how we can grow to not despise it, but welcome it and see it all as a creative invitation. 

We realize once more, the anchor of vision and see the truth that we don't need to know everything to take the next step. 

We just need to know enough and we also need enough foolishness to believe that we can do what needs to be done.

Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).

This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood.

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In this second part of 'Beyond the Barricades', Jill Rowe talks with Steve Chalke about standing with courage in the face of fear as we speak and stand up for justice, compassion, and inclusion.

Together, we explore how power can be so enticing for all of us. And we remind ourselves that we must speak out even when our voice is shaken, shaking, and even when we think we might lose it all.

Responding to the invitation to embrace fear as we seek to live love out loud. In the end, we see that courage is a muscle we can always strengthen. Acting justly, loving mercy and walking humbly.

This is the path we are invited to take, and this is how we will all find our voice.

Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).

This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood.

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe and Steve Chalke talk about not waiting for the cavalry, but instead realising we are the ones we've been waiting for.

We explore how change comes from a dedicated small band of people who stand up and work for a world they can see beyond the barricades. We think through why we believe everyone else is responsible rather than us, which is actually a huge deception.

And we recognise that we all have agency and there always exists the invitation to participate in creating change. We hope this episode gives you the courage to shift, move and pivot so that we can all, all move beyond the barricades together.

Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).

This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood.

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe and Steve Chalke talk all about distress, eustress and de-stress. This episode is all about pressure. We discuss how it shows up in our bodies, its physiological impact.

We think about what we can do when it feels like it is all becoming too much. We even talk about tears. We reflect on the story and power of wilderness and how the pressure of a wilderness can be an invitation that can mould and shape us into the very kind of people we long to be more compassionate, more present, more humble.

We pray that this episode helps you as you navigate pressure and the crucible that life can be.

Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).

This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood.

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe and Steve Chalke talk all about blame. We can all jump to blame so easily, and we find it hard to take responsibility when we've done something wrong and say sorry.

Blame is a shortcut. In this episode, we pay attention to the power of self reflection, self awareness, self compassion, and the decision of forgiveness. This was a super honest and, we hope, helpful conversation.

There's plenty of joy in this one too.

Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).

This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood.

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe and Steve Chalke about our response to the TV series 'Adolescence'. We discuss how all young people spell love T-I-M-E.

It's the most precious commodity we can ever give to a child. Along with our presence, we see that understanding what is happening physiologically in a young person helps us to know more full fully what and how we need to be in their orbit.

And we see that being involved and engaged with them through our time and our presence builds a protective layer. It's not a magic formula, but it gives a much stronger foundation. From simple ideas to important insights.

This conversation was so rich. We pray it helps you as you navigate all the wonder and complexity of life together.

Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).

This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood.

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe and Steve Chalke about Oasis being 40 years old. It was so much fun looking back over those 40 years together. So many people, so much learning and so much joy. What we discover through all of it is the value of having purpose and meaning and the belief that your life counts and that the way of Jesus is summed up in loving others as we love ourselves so that no one is left out.

Celebrating people, supporting people, speaking up and speaking out. Compassion, inclusion, love. That is our task, our responsibility, and our joy at Oasis. 

Here's to the next 40.

Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).

This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood.

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe and Steve Chalke about the reality of inclusion. This conversation is a big one, and so timely. 

We talk about the power of loving our enemies and how it's us who's transformed when we do that, when it is easy to blame and other others, when we explore the better way and what it looks like to live in the reality of truly belonging to each other.

We hope this helps you dive deeper and build inclusion.

Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).

This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood.

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

There is a lot going on in life at the moment, both generally and in politics and globally. All of this can feel overwhelming and heavy. My name's Jill Rowe, and in this episode of the Different podcast, I talk with Steve Chalke about how we can not just make sense of things, but how we can also find our way through and be people who keep moving forward. We explore the ideas of perspective and choice and community and faith and opting always to do good. And we see how all these things can stabilise us.

We can use our agency and power to do the better thing, always.

Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).

This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood.

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe and Steve Chalke talk about how leadership is all about the granular, and not the hype. We chat through where our model for what great leadership comes from, and what it looks like in practice, and together we reflect on some of the trappings that those who find themselves carrying the responsibility of leadership might get caught up in things like power, privilege and the temptation of perks.

The reality of a Christ-centred approach to leadership is quite different. A revolution, in fact, a revolution that we believe the world really needs.

Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).

This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood.

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.