After their months-long, slow-read journey through Becoming an Everyday Changemaker, Adrian Neibauer joined Marcus in this episode to talk with the author, Alex Shevrin Venet, about this transformative book she has written for educators. In this conversation, Alex shares her intentions behind the book and responds to both Adrian and Marcus’s questions at end of their respective reading journeys through it.

To learn more about Alex’s work, you’re encouraged to check out her website www.unconditionallearning.org—and if you’re interested in this book we’ve spent so much time with, here’s a link of where you can get your own copy!

Also, two resources from the conversation we promised to include in the notes:

* On Trauma-Gatekeeping: “If Everything Is Trauma…”

* “Banishing “Siberia” and Student Seclusion: Leading Trauma-Informed Systems Change in a Rural School”

Finally, remember that you can follow Adrian’s work at his Substack, too!

Thanks, as always, to:

Alberto Lugo, one of Jim’s former students, for writing and recording original intro music; Tom Csatari for allowing us to use his band’s recording of “Woodstock” from their 2020 album, Garden; and Courtney Milavec for graphic design.

Find Tom’s work at uncivilizedtom.com, and on Instagram @banduncivilized.

Find Alberto’s work at djsynchro.weebly.com, and on Instagram @djsynchro.

Email us here with feedback or any other questions as well: [email protected].

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