God’s process for finding truth vs the court of public opinion.

What does a just, biblical process look like for church leaders accused of wrongdoing? In this session, Andrew Selley is joined by Mike Davies and Nadene Badenhorst to explore the scriptural principles that lead to fair and truthful outcomes. They look at the dangers of modern-day exposés across media channels by unpacking the legal elements of a fair trial. This comparison highlights where independent, public investigation and judgments fall short. God’s ways for His Kingdom safeguard both saints and leaders, for the purification of His body.

This session is part of the #BeEquipped series – conversations about current issues facing the church. Explore more thought-provoking messages from this series.

This is a Four12 Podcast.

0:00 Introductions

3:57 Public allegations against church leaders

09:28 Can we publicly call out leaders?

17:32 God’s judgment on the church

21:27 Is Four12 open to outside correction?

26:53 What does a fair trial look like?

44:28 Protecting saints who have been hurt

50:38 Due processes for a just verdict

1:04:47 Is restorative justice biblical?

1:14:15 Conclusion: the biblical way forward

About the Speakers:

Andrew Selley is the apostolic leader of Four12 (F12) and the lead elder of multisite, Joshua Generation Church. He has been in full-time ministry since 1996. After serving on the NCMI apostolic team for five years, he founded Four12 in 2011. Andrew is based in California, USA, with his wife, Emma, and their daughter, Enyah.

Mike Davies serves on eldership within Joshua Generation Church, South Africa. He is married to Chantal, and they have two daughters. He loves to see people equipped to effectively serve the Kingdom of God through teaching and writing.

Nadene Badenhorst serves as a deacon within Joshua Generation Church, South Africa. Having practised as an Advocate for many years, she is now full-time within Four12. Nadene is passionate about equipping and training the saints and women’s ministry.

Can we believe all the accusations we see online?

How do we navigate the growing wave of accusations against church leaders? In this session, Andrew Selley addresses the confusion surrounding leadership failures, public criticism, and allegations. He calls the church back to biblical process – urging us to respond with righteousness, integrity, and wisdom. As we face these challenges, let us honour Jesus and His bride in the way we handle these difficult matters.

This session forms part of the #BeEquipped series – conversations around current issues facing the church. Explore more thought-provoking messages from this series.

This is a Four12 Podcast.

0:00 Introduction

0:50 Landing on the side of truth

3:04 End-times rebellion against God’s leaders

8:04 Navigating discipline, sin, and erring leaders

14:35 Grounds for defense against accusations

27:52 The biblical way to process allegations

About the Speaker:

Andrew Selley is the apostolic leader of Four12 (F12) and the lead elder of multisite, Joshua Generation Church. He has been in full-time ministry since 1996. After serving on the NCMI apostolic team for five years, he founded Four12 in 2011. Andrew is based in California, USA, with his wife, Emma, and their daughter, Enyah.

How can saints and churches remain faithful to God’s ways?

How can we guard our churches against drifting from the truth? In this conversation, Andrew Selley and Mike Davies explore how individuals, leaders, churches, and even apostolic movements can slowly move off course, away from God’s will. Using examples from Scripture, church history, and personal reflection, they unpack why repentance, accountability, and continual recalibration are essential for maintaining healthy churches. God calls us to walk a narrow path—let’s be quick to repent to stay the course.

This session forms part of the #BeEquipped series—conversations around current issues facing the church. Watch other thought-provoking videos from the series.

This is a Four12 Podcast.

An in-depth conversation that demystifies false churches - or cults, as many refer to them today. The men talk about the Biblical traits of the true Church, and how we can recognise false churches in considering this. The example set to us by the leaders of the New Testament Church show us how we can and should build healthy church according to the Bible. We look at the measure of the Word in this matter, as opposed to the biased opinions of the world. 

Are we making room for God to move in our meetings?  

In this session, we unpack how to effectively lead a meeting during a move of God, as well as how to lead saints and worship teams, all the while understanding the importance of posturing our hearts before the Lord and shifting gear to where He is ultimately leading.  

Discussing the spiritual realm doesn’t need to be a scary thing.  

Believers need to know that, as sons and daughters of Christ, we have authority over the spiritual powers at play. In this session, we dive into whether or not a Christian can be demonised, and how to receive breakthrough in this area.  

What is the gift of tongues, and why should I desire it?  

What is the difference between speaking in tongues and bringing a tongue? And is there something wrong with me if I can’t yet speak in tongues? In this session, we discuss this widely debated subject, aiming to bring clarity and peace of mind to those seeking answers on this particular spiritual gift.  

Is online church real church?  

Should we view the rise of the online church as a good thing because many more people can be reached than before, or should we reject it as illegitimate? Going online can be a helpful answer during a time of physical limitation, but is it a long-term solution that will produce healthy New Testament churches?  

Is it possible to repent of the sins of those who came before us, or is it pointless? 

Today, people are not only instructed to acknowledge the sins of those who came before them but also to repent on their behalf publicly. Is it possible to repent of the actions of your forefathers or countrymen, or is it simply a pointless and endless exercise? What is the difference between recognising the past and apologising for it?