Beer & Butterfly

Beer & Butterfly

By Ian Kingstone & Jonathan (JP) ParnabyBusiness
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Beer & Butterfly episodes

  • Season 3 - Episode 1: What is transformation capability?

    After Ian & JP return from their summer holidays we welcome them back into the Beer & Butterfly to kick off Season 3 by talking about what is transformation capability.

    The hosts reflect around their holidays and whilst Ian was visiting Majorca, JP was spending 11 nights in a tent (who got the better deal there?) whilst introducing the seasons new theme "Fresh Insights" and provides some overview of what to expect in the upcoming episodes.  

    • 0:00 - Intro
    • 1:15 - Introducing Season 3
    • 3:31 - Our theme for Season 3 - Fresh Insights
    • 7:25 - Disrupt Us - Our request
    • 8:07 - Introducing "Another Rounds"
    • 9:39 - What have we been up to?
    • 18:37 - Introducing transformation capability
    • 26:30 - Transformation capability ecosystems
    • 30:41 - Lean approach to developing capability
    • 32:07 - What does good look like?
    • 37:55 - Check out BTM2
    • 43:53 - Fitness for transformation
    • 49:50 - Pub quiz (Ian vs JP) - Question 1
    • 52:51 - Last orders
    55 min
  • Season 2 Retro: Bringing in industry & domain conversation

    Ian & JP meet one final time for this season and retrospectively review how things have gone before hanging up the keys and bolting the doors of the Beer & Butterfly.  

    • 00:00 - Intro
    • 01:13 - We've crossed the finish line
    • 03:36 - Pub quiz - Question 11 Answer
    • 05:31 - What went well?
    • 11:38 - What didn't go so well?
    • 16:14 - What can we do better?
    • 22:14 - Season Three?
    • 23:46 - Hanging the keys up for summer
    • 24:27 - Last orders
    26 min
  • Season 2 - Episode 10: Two sides of the same coin...with Scott Robertson

    Ian & JP have hit the realisation that this is the last "full" episode of the season and are joined by Scott Robertson from SQWYZ consulting to talk about how strategy and transformation are two sides of the same coin.  JP has caught up with the MCU (Marvel Cinematic Universal) by watching Black Widow and discuss why a Disney+ podcast deal hasn't been made yet, Ian has finally gets his gates up by sacrificing his trip to Wimbledon and Scott is planning to go on a UK holiday in the South West whilst avoiding the chaos that is the M5.  The trio jump into the conversation around aligning leadership and some of the "wasp nests" that can create, discuss how strategy & transformation are ultimately interwoven and round off talking around examples of offensive and defensive disruption strategies.

    You can find out more information on Scott on his Linkedin Profile - https://www.linkedin.com/in/robertsonsm/

    • 00:00 - Intro
    • 01:11 - Introducing our guest...Scott Robertson
    • 02:45 - Pub quiz - Question 10 Answer
    • 04:42 - What have we been up to?
    • 11:28 - Strategic leadership in transformation
    • 25:30 - It's also a mindset
    • 28:34 - Disruption strategies
    • 46:08 - Building transformation capability
    • 48:59 - Raising the bar through merging strategy with transformation
    • 50:08 - Pub quiz - Question 11
    • 51:42 - Thanking Scott
    • 52:15 - Question time
    • 58:09 - Last orders


    1 hr
  • Season 2 - Episode 9: Negotiating Change...with Simon Woodhouse

    As Ian & JP catch-up this week their next guest is just "passing by the pub" and decides to join them to talk all around behavioural change and mindsets when it comes to transformation.  Ian is still excited about going to Wimbledon tickets and finally has a plan for his aluminium gates but generally working more than having fun.  JP finally remembers that he went away for his wedding anniversary weekend when usually it's forgetting the date upfront and looking forward to his re-booked camping trip, updates on Loki and talks vampires in What We Do In The Shadows.  Simon reminds us of an important football tournament that's happening (Euros 2020 which was delayed due to COVID).  Simon then leads the episode and as a group we explore various facets of behavioural change, mirroring, aligning mindsets and change account management.

    You can find out more information on Simon on his LinkedIn Profile - https://www.linkedin.com/in/simon-woodhouse-2323255b/

    • 00:00 - Intro
    • 01:12 - Introducing our guest...Simon Woodhouse
    • 03:35 - Pub quiz - Question 9 Answer
    • 05:27 - What have we been up to?
    • 15:20 - Football & Business behavioural change
    • 20:30 - Culture, mirroring & negotiating
    • 24:13 - Behavioural change stairway model
    • 27:18 - Aligning and shifting mindsets
    • 34:32 - Measure and sustaining the change
    • 38:20 - Change account management
    • 42:53 - Change happens when it's fair
    • 51:13 - Talking points through rich pictures
    • 58:15 - Raising the bar through inviting people to change
    • 01:02:48 - Pub quiz - Question 10
    • 01:04:51 - Thanking Simon
    • 01:05:07 - Question time
    • 01:10:56 - Last orders
    1 hr 13 min
  • Season 2 - Episode 8: How can "we" leverage the digital economy...with Rob Llewellyn

    The end of the pub quiz is in sight and Ian & JP are wondering if they are going to get the wooden spoon award for coming in last place, however this evening they are joined by Rob Llewellyn from CXO Transform to discuss how individuals can leverage the digital economy.  The trio catch-up over a drink and Rob provides a background of his water-skiing days which enabled him to travel around the world as well where his fascination of travelling stemmed from.  The episode focuses on how Rob transformed his own business from being a consultant travelling to clients  to building a successful online business delivering education and business transformation knowledge across the globe.

    Useful Links:
    You can find out more information on Rob Llewellyn on his LinkedIn Profile - https://www.linkedin.com/in/robllewellyn/

    Linkedin Article - https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/my-digital-experiment-ceo-salary-rob-llewellyn

    Digital Business Framework Program - A Step-by-Step Plan to Grow Your Digital Economy Prosperity Online - https://cxotransform.com/p/dbf-start

    PROMOTIONAL OFFER - Use discount code BEER35 in the checkout on cxotransform.com

    • 00:00 - Intro
    • 01:13 - Introducing our guest...Rob Llewellyn
    • 04:06 - A bit of background on Rob
    • 07:20 - Pub quiz - Question 8 Answer
    • 08:41 - What have we been up to?
    • 13:07 - From consultant to leveraging digital
    • 18:13 - The bet
    • 20:20 - Learn and fail fast, resolve and progress
    • 23:33 - New challenges - scaling the business
    • 29:39 - What's next for Rob
    • 35:51 - Importance of giving value
    • 39:41 - Raising the bar through the digital economy
    • 43:00 - Advice to others leveraging digital
    • 50:51 - CXO Transform Promotional offer
    • 53:00 - Pub quiz - Question 9
    • 54:15 - Thanking Rob
    • 54:46 - Question time
    • 01:00:50 - Last orders


    1 hr 3 min
  • Season 2 - Episode 7: Why Business Analysts are awesome

    Our hosts are feeling nostalgic in this episode as Ian and JP talk about why Business Analyst's are awesome in their role within business transformation.  As the pair catch up Ian talks about putting his gates off to go to Wimbledon and JP relays his experience of driving supercars around an abandoned airfield.  JP starts to explain why this episode was an important one for him to really shine a light on BA's and the importance they play, calling upon own experiences and highlighting key areas of why they are great.

    • 00:00 - Intro
    • 01:13 - Pub quiz - Question 7 Answer
    • 03:04 - What have we been up to?
    • 10:35 - Why Business Analysts are awesome?
    • 15:11 - What BA's do?
    • 18:09 - How did JP become a BA?
    • 24:10 - This episode is for all the BA's out there
    • 25:31 - BA Topic 1 - Define the why
    • 26:33 - BA Topic 2 - Solution agnostic
    • 28:39 - BA Topic 3 - Uncover root causes
    • 30:23 - BA Topic 4 - Documenting requirements
    • 31:37 - BA Topic 5 - Process mapping
    • 34:23 - BA Topic 6 - Understanding the impact of change
    • 36:30 - BA Topic 7 - Ensuring solution is fit for purpose
    • 39:40 - How a BA raises the bar?
    • 41:24 - Pub quiz - Question 8
    • 42:33 - Question time
    • 47:21 - Last orders

    Note: Link to Prosci return on investment on change management as mentioned in the questions - https://www.prosci.com/resources/articles/roi-change-management

    49 min
  • Season 2 - Episode 6: MID SEASON - Transformation Speed Dating

    The halfway point has been reached with Season Two and Ian & JP catch-up once again to try something new which they call "Transformation Speed Dating".  After catching up the hosts embark on an episode which is unplanned and randomised by splitting the conversation into "personal / getting to know you topics" and "business transformation topics from the BTM2 framework (Business Transformation Management Framework)" that are driven randomly by spinning the wheel.

    • 00:00 - Intro
    • 01:12 - We are half way there
    • 02:43 - Pub quiz - Question 6 Answer
    • 04:51 - What have we been up to?
    • 12:50 - Transformation speed dating
    • 16:04 - Spin the wheel
    • 41:41 - Pub quiz - Question 7
    • 43:39 - Last orders
    46 min
  • Season 2 - Episode 5: Transformation Simulation...with Tim Dew

    As Ian & JP meet up in the Beer & Butterfly we explore how serious gaming is transforming how we educate people through change & transformation.   We are joined at the table by Tim Dew from GingrTech and as everyone catches up over a drink, Ian is watching Falcon & The Winter Soldier, JP finds out he's far to old to go trampolining with the kids and Tim explores a TV show "Succession" and isn't quite sure about it.  They continue to then explore how Tim created "Rocket",  why serious games have an important role to play in the transformation space and our hosts reflect on their experiences when they played a game of Rocket recently.

    You can find out more about Tim on his LinkedIn profile - https://www.linkedin.com/in/timdew/

    • 00:00 - Intro
    • 01:13 - Introducing Tim Dew
    • 02:57 - Welcoming Tim to the table
    • 05:24 - Pub quiz - Question 5 Answer
    • 07:13 - What have we been up to?
    • 15:06 - What are serious games?
    • 21:35 - Capturing the emotion of an organisation thats failing & successful
    • 24:38 - What is Rocket?
    • 41:22 - Time in transformation
    • 50:03 - What is Concord?
    • 56:39 - Pub quiz - Question 6
    • 59:04 - Thanking Tim
    • 1:00:13 - Question time
    • 1:04:12 - Last orders
    1 hr 6 min
  • Season 2 - Episode 4: To AS IS or not to AS IS, that is the question

    Ian & JP return and review their current progress on the pub quiz (not going well) and devote an episode to a question provided by Debbie Evans on whether we should do AS IS Analysis or not.  Our hosts recall the joys of the bank holiday weekend and enjoying the recent weather and talk about some films & TV (Army of the Dead & Taskmaster) and we get an update on Ian's aluminium gates.  This episode essentially unpacks the recorded question from Debbie and poses a "for" and "against" argument for doing AS IS Analysis within transformations.

    • 00:00 - Intro
    • 01:13 - Pub quiz - Question 4 Answer
    • 02:53 - What have we been up to?
    • 10:11 - Framing the episode
    • 11:24 - Question from Debbie Evans
    • 12:35 - Unpacking the question
    • 18:41 - Arguments for AS IS
    • 28:18 - Arguments against AS IS
    • 34:15 - A view of the way forward
    • 39:00 - Circumstantial and just enough approach
    • 44:15 - Pub quiz - Question 5
    • 45:43 - Last orders
    48 min

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