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Dr. Peter Bonutti has practiced over 30,000 surgical procedures during his career but he’s also an innovator passionate about product design and lab research that moves the medical world into the future. In this episode, Dr. Bonutti talks about how he used the money from his work as an orthopedic surgeon to fund his own medical research lab. He also explains what neuromodulation is and why it should be approached carefully. Join us and listen to this medical pioneer talk all about hard work and simple solutions!

Before any world-changing innovation, there was a moment, an event, a realization that sparked the idea before it happened. This is a podcast about that moment — about that idea. Before IT Happened takes you on a journey with the innovators who imagined — and are still imagining — our future. Join host Donna Loughlin as her guests tell their stories of how they brought their visions to life. 

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(01:10) - How Dr. Peter Bonutti’s became a young doctor - “My father had me apply to the University of Chicago and I started there at 16. I had a full scholarship. So actually college was cheaper for me than high school.”

(05:27) - Spinal surgery revolution - “It wasn’t what you would consider a lab. It was more of a product development facility where you could build, test, work on redesigning and then getting FDA approval.”

(09:29) - An orthopedic surgeon and creator - “We try to bring things down to what I call the least common denominator, the simplest solution often ends up being the best.”

(17:53) - A multifaceted approach - “It's kind of an armamentarium. You need both, I believe, to really help in current contemporary environments with problems that we have, such as with COVID currently.”

(20:39) - Neuromodulation and what can be done with it - “Nerves in the human body function via an electric current, essentially. So if you can provide a current, you can either enhance the nerve’s function or you can diminish the nerve’s function by overriding it.”

(25:35) - Dr. Bonutti’s advice for medical research and development - “All the parts have to work together in synchrony and by taking things out of synchrony or trying to affect only one area, you have to be careful you're not affecting others.”

EPISODE RESOURCES: 

Watch Bonutti Technologies’ demo on the UVCeed Smart Mobile Disinfection

Learn more about Dr. Bonutti’s UVCeed disinfectant device that attaches to mobile devices 

Read The Geek Church’s Review: Our Review of the UVCeed Sanitizing Device

Learn more about Bonutti Technologies

Connect with Dr. Peter Bonutti on LinkedIn

Follow his band The Clinic on Spotify

Listen to Before IT Happened’s: Electrifying Agriculture One Tractor at a Time with Praveen Penmetsa



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In this episode of Before IT Happened, entrepreneur, storytelling coach and bestselling author Park Howell joins the show to discuss the ‘Story Cycle System’ that he created to apply the full potential of ‘the hero’s journey’ to business and entrepreneurship. There is endless competition for our attention and it forces businesses to become acutely aware of the audience they're serving. This awareness leads to the possibility of crafting powerful stories. So join us and discover what good brand storytelling is all about and how you can make it come to life!

Before any world-changing innovation, there was a moment, an event, a realization that sparked the idea before it happened. This is a podcast about that moment — about that idea. Before IT Happened takes you on a journey with the innovators who imagined — and are still imagining — our future. Join host Donna Loughlin as her guests tell their stories of how they brought their visions to life. 

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(01:39) - How Park Howell fell in love with music: “I’ve applied everything I've learned in [music] to the work I've done over the past 35 years in advertising and branding because everything is about flow and rhythm.”

(07:45) - Park’s early approaches to the art of storytelling - “I realized we've only been telling them intuitively, we've never told them intentionally, meaning I've never used a framework.”

(11:09) - The origins of the ‘Story Cycle System’ - “While he was going to school there, I said, ‘Parker, send me your textbooks since I'm paying for them. I want to know what Chapman University teaches you as a storyteller.”

(15:10) - Redefining the ‘Hero’s Journey’ - “Depending on where your audience is with you in the story cycle system journey, you want to share with them appropriate stories that they can relate to.”

(21:51) - How Park guides people to apply his framework to their brand’s story - “Take us to that problem, share that conflict or that contradiction. When you don't, you end up not telling a story. You think you're telling a story. All you're telling is the exposition of that story.”

(24:27) - Focusing on the problem you’re solving for your audience - “I want to know what this actually does for me. What do you actually make happen in my world? There's no list of features and functions that’s going to sell that for you.”

(26:42) - Crafting a focused narrative - “You're going to try to sell lots of different things in that ABT, but I want you to always boil it down to a singular narrative and that in this case is the companionship.”

(32:00) - The ABT, a versatile tool - “I've been using this ABT in my emails. I've cut my email writing time down by two thirds. People who receive them actually understand what I'm asking of them. And I have a built-in call to action in my therefore statement.”

EPISODE RESOURCES: 

Connect with Park Howell on Twitter, Instagram and Linkedin

Watch Park’s Ted Talk: Start Looking for Your Scenes and Your Story Will Find You

Read Park’s books: Brand Bewitchery and The Narrative Gym

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“Put your money where your heart is.” That’s the tagline you’ll see when you visit Will Peterffy’s mobile trading platform IMPACT. Will is the ESG Director at Interactive Brokers, and his purpose is to help guide younger generations who want to invest consciously. Millennials are the most socially responsible and soon to be wealthiest generation of investors the world has ever known. In this episode, Donna talks to Will about how he believes mission-based investing can help create a better, healthier planet and why he says other hedge fund owners should get in front of the wave. Join in while we imagine the future of collective and generational efforts to make a change!

Before any world-changing innovation, there was a moment, an event, a realization that sparked the idea before it happened. This is a podcast about that moment — about that idea. Before IT Happened takes you on a journey with the innovators who imagined — and are still imagining — our future. Join host Donna Loughlin as her guests tell their stories of how they brought their visions to life. 

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(01:12) - How Will Peterffy found his purpose - “One of the things that Bioneers focuses a lot on is the principle of biomimicry. When we're addressing a solution, nature usually has one that's better than what we can come up with on our own.”

(07:49) - From ranch hand to Board of Directors - “I spent my summers working on regenerative ranches in Montana. And this is actually where I had that epiphany moment.”

(15:27) - Explaining IMPACT, Will’s new mobile app for conscious investing - “You can create your own personalized combination of different values to really reflect who you are, and it will then match your investments with those values.”

(20:26) - Millennials and the blockchain - “We're able to create currencies and assets that are backed by different values, so we're able to invest more directly in what we care about.”

(25:10) - On tracking data about the health of the planet - “If we can see these different data points coming in and be able to track the health of our ecologies, we can start accounting for them. Create systems that incentivize the healing of them.”

(28:07) - The process of applying to a One Small Planet grant  - “The biggest thing with that is really having an understanding of exactly where the money's going and that it's really going to those who know what to do with it.”

(30:34) - What the ‘Big Hedge Funds’ can learn from ESG efforts - “This tide shift is occurring and people are going to start being held more accountable for the impact that they have on the planet.”

EPISODE RESOURCES: 

Connect with Will Peterffy on Linkedin

Learn more about Will’s mobil app IMPACT

Learn more about how the Bioneers are working to solve environmental and social challenges

Read Traders Magazine’s Interactive Brokers Launches ‘IMPACT’ Mobile Trading Platform for Socially Conscious Investors

Read Tech Bullion’s interview with Will: IMPACT Enables Investments In Social Values: Interview with Will Peterffy, ESG Director at Interactive Brokers.

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Shannon Falconer is the Co-Founder and CEO of Because Animals, a startup that produces cultured meat products for pets. Their goal is to reduce the pet food industry's reliance on animal agriculture. In this episode, Sharon shares how her love for animals at a young age led to a disruptive career in the biochemistry field. She explains how the process to create cultured meat works and why the commercial pet food industry needs to start paying attention to this alternative. Join in and find out how Because Animals is challenging a hundred-billion dollar industry with the help of some mighty mice!

Before any world-changing innovation, there was a moment, an event, a realization that sparked the idea before it happened. This is a podcast about that moment — about that idea. Before IT Happened takes you on a journey with the innovators who imagined — and are still imagining — our future. Join host Donna Loughlin as her guests tell their stories of how they brought their visions to life. 

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(02:52) - Why Shannon Falconer wants to take animals out of the supply chain - “My decision to become vegetarian was really not so much about health. My best friends were animals.”

(09:48) - On the wrong side of the line: Shannon's experience doing a postdoc at Stanford - “The sad reality of being a biomedical researcher is that even if you don't do animal work yourself, the work that you do will often touch an animal.”

(13:38) - What exactly is cultured meat and how mice factor in - “Chicken and beef are the main ingredients in commercial pet food, but those are also the main allergens for cats and dogs.”

(19:28) - The counterculture of cultured meat - “NARA says it's a sustainable practice, but it's a sustainable practice in the sense that it is sustaining the most unsustainable practice on the earth, which is animal agriculture.”

(28:02) - The challenge of challenging a hundred-billion dollar industry - “Just before we needed to raise more money, we found out—actually just through the media—not even from them, that our investors had also invested in a competitor of ours.”

(33:06) -  Visionaries with a new ingredient  - “We are a food biotechnology company, but we are also a consumer facing brand. Classically in venture capital, those two are very distinct styles of company.”

(38:51) - Is the pet food industry becoming more open minded towards cultured meat products? - “Humans can be omnivores, vegetarians and vegans without a problem. It's a different story to feed your cat a plant-based diet.”

EPISODE RESOURCES: 

Follow Because Animals on Twitter and Instagram

Order your own Noochies and Probiotic Sprinkles at Because Animals' website

Read Fast Company’s There are now lab-grown mouse-meat cookies for cats

Read Forbe’s Our Environmental Disaster Begins With Our Words

Watch Ted Talk: How we could eat real meat without harming animals

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Chick Boss Cake founder Rebecca Hamilton joins Donna on this episode of Before IT Happened to share the story of how she went from being a homeless high school dropout at 16 years old to opening a bakery in Ontario, Canada and achieving $1 million in sales. Satisfy your sweet tooth now by listening to this episode and hearing Rebecca talk about everything from how baking cakes at a women’s shelter was a turning point in her life to how she comes up with some of her wackier confections like cotton candy lemonade and potato chip buttercream cakes. Yum!

Before any world-changing innovation, there was a moment, an event, a realization that sparked the idea before it happened. This is a podcast about that moment — about that idea. Before IT Happened takes you on a journey with the innovators who imagined — and are still imagining — our future. Join host Donna Loughlin as her guests tell their stories of how they brought their visions to life. 

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(01:39) - Rebecca’s challenging teenage years - “I survived at 16 years old being on my own and having to worry about things like groceries or bus tickets while my friends were worried about going to school dances and normal teenage things.”

(12:43) - Finally finding shelter: How Rebecca’s passion for baking started - “When I got that job, I didn't realize it at the time, but that job offered a lot of healing.”

(17:35) - Becoming the Chick Boss - “That’s how I came up with the name too, Chick Boss Cake, because Buddy from Cake Boss is a huge inspiration.”

(21:02) - On opening her first storefront - “We opened our first store location with real rent to pay and real bills. And it was really scary, but we took the leap of faith, and looking back now I’m so glad that we did.” 

(23:38) - Creativity tastes delicious: How Rebecca comes up with her unique flavors - “The really over-the-top stuff might work in LA or New York, but in my small town where people like vanilla, chocolate, and strawberry, I had to scale it back a little bit.”

(26:14) - Hitting one million in sales during the pandemic - “It's all a mindset game. I wanted the opportunity to share my story with other people and hopefully inspire them to take that leap and do what they actually want to do with their life.”

(32:14) - The process of writing The Million Dollar Bakery and explaining the bakery’s visual components - “I got a lot of really great feedback on this one and the sense that it was written as if we were having a coffee together.”

(37:20) - Sharing more wisdom through her podcast ‘Scrap the Sweet Talk’ - “We talk a lot about pretty much everything that we do in our daily lives to set us up for success and to feel great every day in order to be able to run a business.”

EPISODE RESOURCES: 

Follow Rebecca Hamilton on Instagram

Follow Chick Boss Cake on Instagram and Facebook

Visit a Chick Boss Cake location in Ontario and take a cake decoration class at CBC!

Listen to Rebecca Hamilton’s podcast Scrap The Sweet Talk

Read Rebecca’s book: The Million Dollar Bakery

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Few people have managed to document the modern history of technology as Jonathan Littman has. Jonathan is a prominent author and journalist known for the bestselling book The Art of Innovation that he collaborated on with IDEO co-founder David Kelley and his brother Tom Kelley. In this episode of Before IT Happened, we talk about Jonathan’s most recent book, The Entrepreneur’s Faces, the different categories of entrepreneur personalities and his experience inside the fast-growing tech hub of Lisbon, Portugal. Listen now and try to guess which entrepreneur archetype matches your personality!

Before any world-changing innovation, there was a moment, an event, a realization that sparked the idea before it happened. This is a podcast about that moment — about that idea. Before IT Happened takes you on a journey with the innovators who imagined — and are still imagining — our future. Join host Donna Loughlin as her guests tell their stories of how they brought their visions to life. 

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(01:18) - Jonathan Littman’s successful career as an author and journalist - “I had a fantastic job and then suddenly saw an opportunity for my first real startup, which was a book.”

(08:04) - Documenting the origin of innovation: Working with brothers Tom and David Kelly inside IDEO - “The success of Apple and Samsung are hugely dependent on this relationship. Samsung had like 20 designers live at IDEO, and that's really the reason they jumped ahead.”

(14:06) - Beyond the visionary: Defining the different categories of entrepreneurs outlined in The Entrepreneur’s Faces - “There are all these blanket statements: ‘It's all about the team’. But then you actually never hear the archetypes of the team… You don't really want to have four visionaries.”

(21:01) - On influential leaders and companies’ archetypes - “With Bezos, it was all about performance. It was all about making revenue and changing fast. He had no interest really in design, beauty or elegance.”

(22:58) - The new California Dream is in Portugal: Do these archetypes have cultural or physical barriers? - “We can sell nothing right here in San Francisco, we can sell a promise… And most people from the rest of the world really struggle with that.”

(27:01) - Unraveling the different phases within innovation - “The most important thing you can do as a mentor or an advisor is to help people make a shift.”

(31:10) - Tough times and opportunities - “When the rules change, when habits change, when behaviors change, it's the ideal time to start.”

EPISODE RESOURCES: 

Connect with Jonathan on Twitter and LinkedIn

Read Jonathan’s most recent book: The Entrepreneur’s Faces

Read Jonathan’s LA Magazine story: The New California Dream Is in Portugal 

Learn more about innovation hub Smartup.life and Jonathan’s Snowball Narrative

Watch: Jonathan Littman & Susanna Camp The Entrepreneur's Faces: How Makers Visionaries & Outsiders Succeed

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Talking about AI and technology innovations to enhance the safety of a local environment is often a sensitive topic, but it is increasingly necessary to become more involved in it. On this episode of Before IT Happened, Donna talks with two AI entrepreneurs about how they're using AI-powered robots to make us safer. Stacy D. Stephens and William Santana Li join the show to cover some topics around the future of safety, such as situational awareness within law enforcement, misconceptions in our sense of privacy and the urge to address these issues now. 

Before any world-changing innovation, there was a moment, an event, a realization that sparked the idea before it happened. This is a podcast about that moment — about that idea. Before IT Happened takes you on a journey with the innovators who imagined — and are still imagining — our future. Join host Donna Loughlin as her guests tell their stories of how they brought their visions to life.  

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(01:30) - Introducing Bill and Stacy from Knightscope, a company that develops autonomous security robots to combat crime - “Chrysler had donated an engine, but none of it was working. So my assignment for the semester is like: Hey, there's all these parts here. There's a dynamometer. Get the engine on the dyno and set it all up.”

(07:59) - Careful what email you reply to: How Bill and Stacy decided to build a security company together - “As a police officer, I'd always thought these cars that we ride around in, they're not designed or engineered to be police cars.”

(13:07) - Situational awareness within law enforcement and how the Knightscope robots can help to make the US one of the safest countries in the world - “This is not a popular thing to say, but we just don't have enough officers and guards to do the job appropriately.”

(19:08) - Behind Knightscope’s software: How can machine learning technology be applied to law enforcement? - “It's not like you have to constantly monitor what's going on, the robots and the software are doing a lot of that heavy lifting for you.”

(26:39) - Adapt and evolve: The complex process of launching Knightscope technology to the world - “There will be more incidents. You're not going to go build this and not have things go wrong. The important thing is how do you handle it when things do go awry.”

(32:40) - The need for security technology education, traditional investment issues and the notion of losing privacy - “By bringing all of the people in who this is going to affect, they actually have ownership of the technology before it ever even arrived.”

EPISODE RESOURCES: 

Connect with Knightscope CEO William Santana Li on Twitter and LinkedIn

Connect with Knightscope Executive VP Stacy D. Stephens on Twitter and LinkedIn

Watch William Santana Li’s Ted Talk

Watch Knightscope CEO William Santana Li on on CNBC’s Mad Money

Learn more about Knightscope, read their Crime statistics and follow them on

Back in the 70’s running for women was pretty uncomfortable, wearing a traditional bra just didn’t do the trick for support. Our guest Lisa Z. Lindahl was diagnosed with epilepsy at an early age and because of her complex relationship with her body, jogging became her sanctuary. Soon, the idea for her business breakthrough popped into her head: the Jogbra. Lisa’s story is one about finding spirituality in running and liberating women through female-friendly sporting equipment. Join this conversation and listen to Lisa’s empowering story of how her invention changed the lives of modern women and unleashed a whole new industry. 

Before any world-changing innovation, there was a moment, an event, a realization that sparked the idea before it happened. This is a podcast about that moment — about that idea. Before IT Happened takes you on a journey with the innovators who imagined — and are still imagining — our future. Join host Donna Loughlin as her guests tell their stories of how they brought their visions to life. 

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(02:37) - Lisa on growing up with epilepsy - “I had something called absence seizures. You just lose consciousness for a fraction of a second and people around me wouldn't know.”

(05:50) - Lisa’s creative aspirations in the 1960’s - “There were no expectations for me. My parents hoped that some nice man would come along and marry me and take care of me.”

(10:19) - The spirituality and connectedness of jogging - “I didn't run to compete. It was truly my first meditation. My first real spiritual practice came from running through the woods.”

(15:04) - Finding a functional support solution for running - “I thought, ‘Why isn't there a bra that functions just for support for when I'm running?’ And I sat down and wrote down what it would have to do.”

(23:23) - From prototype to booming business - “We started getting so many orders right away. Not just from individuals, but from all these stores that it just took off.”

(33:24) - Creating a new product for breast cancer patients - “I could not say no because I saw the pictures of these women and what they were enduring. It was kind of really a lovely flip-flop.”

(38:37) - A story about women, feminism, and liberation - “That's why I wrote Unleash the Girls because it's about feminism. It's about how women deal with each other and how we face our insecurities.”

EPISODE RESOURCES:

Connect with Lisa on Twitter and visit her website lisalindahl.com

Get Lisa’s book: Unleash the Girls: The Untold Story of the Invention of the Sports Bra and How It Changed the World (And Me)

Watch ESPN’s documentary: Revolution: A History of the Sports Bra

Read an interview with Eva Longoria who directed ESPN’s documentary on the Sports Bra

Watch Brandi Chastain’s retrospective interview: The greatest moment in US Soccer history, 20 years later (Full Story) | FOX SOCCER

Read the Smithsonian’s

Johnny Crowder is a lot of things. He's an entrepreneur, the lead singer of the heavy metal band Prison and a TEDx speaker. Today, Johnny Crowder joins the show to share the story of how he created Cope Notes, a company that sends text messages combining peer support and positive psychology to help improve its users’ mental and emotional health. During the discussion, Donna and Johnny talk about his own struggles with mental health, his schizophrenia diagnosis, how he discovered music and the decisions that led him to becoming the leader of a groundbreaking technology company. Listen to this episode to discover how we can use technology to slow down and create new patterns of positive thinking.

Before any world-changing innovation, there was a moment, an event, a realization that sparked the idea before it happened. This is a podcast about that moment — about that idea. Before IT Happened takes you on a journey with the innovators who imagined — and are still imagining — our future. Join host Donna Loughlin as her guests tell their stories of how they brought their visions to life. 

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(01:36) - Johnny Crowder, a motivator and enabler of empowerment - “We never really learned the correct way to control your temper or to treat other people the way you would want to be treated.”

(04:07) - Johnny’s creative development and musical influences during his early years - “I still love rap. I still love acoustic music. I like some pop, but rock was the thing that made my eyes wide and made me think: I want to do this.”

(08:01) - On Johnny’s first band’s style - “I was not interested in being vulnerable or showing my goofy side or anything like that. I wanted to be heavy and scary.”

(09:59) - Discovering music as a coping mechanism - “I went to my room and I picked up my guitar and I just started playing anything that came to my mind. In five minutes my heart rate slowed down and I started breathing more clearly.”

(17:46) - Choosing a career path after high school - “Psychology is what I wound up going to school for and I had no idea that I would be running a mental health technology company at this age.”

(22:18) - How sticky notes and encouraging text messages evolved into a company - “I was very surprised to see how many people resonated with that, cause it was a shot in the dark for me. I just texted people what I wish somebody would have texted me.”

(32:23) - App community, the power of randomness and who’s behind the messages - “No two people ever get the same text at the same time. You never know when we're going to text you, but over time those interruptions to your day interrupt negative thought patterns and train your brain to think in healthier patterns.”

(34:44) - Gratitude, self stigma and why optimism is the challenge of the century - “This is supposed to help me lower my self stigma and accept myself and feel unashamed of what I'm going through and not judge myself for what I'm experiencing.”

EPISODE RESOURCES: 

Connect with Johnny Crowder on Instagram and Linkedin

Learn more about Cope Notes and follow on Twitter

Watch Johnny’s Tedx Talk How to Grow as a Person (And Why It Sucks) 

Listen to The Cope Notes Podcast w/ Johnny Crowder

Listen to Johnny’s band

Before we wish everyone happy holidays, we wanted to share some of our favorite highlights from the Before IT Happened’s first year! This show is about people who are all about innovation and making the world a better and more equitable place. Regardless of their background or the problem, they’re working to solve, it really comes down to the human spirit and the big idea that something needs to change. So join us for this end-of-year round-up of some of the most interesting and groundbreaking guests we’ve talked to on this podcast so far! Then we’ll see you in January to talk with more trailblazers and changemakers! 

Before any world-changing innovation, there was a moment, an event, a realization that sparked the idea before it happened. This is a podcast about that moment — about that idea. Before IT Happened takes you on a journey with the innovators who imagined — and are still imagining — our future. Join host Donna Loughlin as her guests tell their stories of how they brought their visions to life.

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(02:26) - On Before IT Happened’s evolution - “When this podcast first started, initially it was conversations with some of the most amazing innovators and visionaries that are working in the technology sectors, as well as science and space. Real futurists.”

(04:10) - Shaping the Future of AI with Eric Daimler - “Whatever technology that is invented between when you are 15 and 25 is something you think you can build a career on, whatever comes after you are 25 or 30 is against the law of nature. You don't want to learn new techniques.”

(05:48) - Getting a Black Belt in Blockchain with Medha Parlikar - “My goal is that the user experiences that will emerge and the tooling that will emerge will make it very easy for the consumer to interact with blockchain.”

(08:46) - Smart, Electric Motorcycles and Achieving Zero Fatalities Before 2030 with Damon Founder Jay Giraud - “I was in Jakarta and I realized if I've dedicated my life to getting the world off oil and the car side of it's handled, and the motorcycle side in the world actually dwarfs the number of vehicles driven compared to cars, so here's this really big missing link.”

(10:24) - A New Wave of Manning Up With the 2 LADS Daniel Sharman and Leggy Langdon - “We're putting the weapons down for a moment and saying: ‘Oh God, isn't it weird being human?’”

(13:25) - Disrupting the Silicon Valley Boys Club with Mercedes Soria - “If you're a woman, especially in technology and Silicon Valley, you have to prove your worth. As soon as you come in, they assume that you don't know anything.”

(16:53) - Getting Kids Excited About STEM and Space with “The NASA Lady” Pamela Greyer - “I look at Elon Musk and I'm like, ‘Well, at what point and where did he start?’  There is still such a long way to go when we look at black and brown women and men in the industry pursuing these careers.”

(20:23) - Sprouting our way to Better Health and Sustainability with Doug Evans - “I think for the people that are listening to this, you can start just with a Mason jar and some seeds and you could change the world.”

(22:14) - From Farm to Table to Feeding the World with Uncrushable Celebrity Chef and Entrepreneur Tyler Florence - “Right now, hands down, there's enough food grown to feed the world. There's no. It's just not managed properly.”

(23:44) - In the Pursuit of Cleaner Farming, Making Great Wine and Chasing Monarch Butterflies with Carlo Mondavi - “Farmers are the most important people on the planet. We need farmers.” 

(25:30) The impact that every guest has made on this show’s journey - “We have to set a goal that's seemingly impossible because it changes what we believe we can do.”

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