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  • 43. Walls of Memory and Fiction with Yip Yew Chong

    In this episode, Nicholas Braman sits down with Yip Yew Chong, the artist whose nostalgic murals have become a defining feature of Singapore's urban landscape. While his work captures the soul of neighborhoods like Chinatown and Tiong Bahru, the story behind the brush is one of pragmatic transition and mid-career reinvention.

    Yew Chong spent 25 years as a finance director before transitioning to full-time artistry at age 49. We move past the aesthetics of his work to explore the "how" of his journey—the three-year "parallel run" where he balanced international business trips with weekend painting sessions on the streets. It is a conversation about the stamina required to follow a passion without ignoring the reality of keeping food on the table.


    Michelle's links:
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/askmichellelee/ 
    Website: https://www.askmichellelee.com/ 
    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/askmichelleleee 

    Podcast links:
    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2h9gsrWKH9C1KY1OzR12kr?si=2a4d19970632465f
    Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/before-we-get-there/id1775182252
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beforewegettherepodcast/
    Linktree: https://linktr.ee/nicholasbraman
    Website: https://nicholasbraman.com/podcast

     
    00:00 Meet Yip Yew Chong
    04:44 Breaking Into Chinatown Walls
    07:34 Nostalgia Versus Reality
    16:32 Finding His Signature Style
    22:16 Not Starting Earlier
    26:06 Pragmatic Passion Advice
    34:19 Evolving And Dream Projects
    40:12 Defining Success And Happiness
    43:55 Where To Follow And Farewell

     

    45 min
  • 42. Brewing Inspiring Moments with Martin Bém
    Host Nicholas Braman interviews Martin Bém, founder of Level 33, the world’s highest microbrewery, about his life path and entrepreneurship in Singapore. Martin moved to Singapore in 1999 as San Pellegrino’s Director Asia, helped grow Western brands as Asian markets opened, then left corporate life after three years to start an agency bringing European brands to Asia, only to be hit immediately by SARS, nearly running out of funds before a partner invested. He later launched his own restaurant concepts despite no operations background, emphasizing quick feedback, humility, and decision-making driven by numbers rather than attachment to ideas. Bém explains Level 33’s concept (fresh beer, serious food, and wine), adapting to trends like cocktails and sustainability, retaining talent through structured HR practices, and navigating COVID without layoffs while reflecting on exits and future health-focused concepts.

    Martin's links:
    Level33 Website: https://level33.com.sg/ 
    Level33 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/level33_sg/ 

    Podcast links:
    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2h9gsrWKH9C1KY1OzR12kr?si=2a4d19970632465f
    Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/before-we-get-there/id1775182252
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beforewegettherepodcast/
    Linktree: https://linktr.ee/nicholasbraman
    Website: https://nicholasbraman.com/podcast

    00:00 Intro to Martin Bém
    04:13 Taking the Leap Abroad
    08:34 Building Brands and Ownership
    11:26 Learning to Pivot Fast
    17:15 Keeping the Concept Evolving
    21:21 Coping With Setbacks
    31:46 Work Life Balance Reality
    36:27 Next Goals and New Concepts
    42:48 Social Links and Farewell
    44 min
  • 41. Breaking Back Out with Wendy Vaz

    Host Nicholas Braman interviews entrepreneur and content creator Wendy Vaz two months after she left a six-year corporate career to go all-in on her own business amid major life changes, including a wedding, a move, and a serious back fracture. Wendy describes initial self-doubt, seeking outside validation, and becoming more grounded by trusting her own plan and slowing down to calm her nervous system, drawing on past mental health struggles. She shares her long history of blogging and content creation, overcoming insecurity about her accent after studying in Vancouver on a scholarship, and choosing to stay in Malaysia due to distance from family and depression. Wendy explains adopting a “no plan B” mindset, staying open to pivots while remaining committed to helping people struggling mentally, and aiming to scale impact, earn sustainably, and eventually retire her parents.


    Wendy's links:
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wendyvazzy/
    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@wendyvazzy
    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/WendyVaz

    Podcast links:
    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2h9gsrWKH9C1KY1OzR12kr?si=2a4d19970632465f
    Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/before-we-get-there/id1775182252
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beforewegettherepodcast/
    Linktree: https://linktr.ee/nicholasbraman
    Website: https://nicholasbraman.com/podcast

    00:00 Meet Wendy Vaz
    05:38 Why Entrepreneurship
    13:12 Content Creator Origins
    17:57 Authenticity Online
    21:09 Scholarship to Canada
    25:09 Depression and Coming Home
    28:55 Quitting Without Plan B
    33:51 A Year of Big Changes
    39:00 Purpose Driven Business
    44:32 Closing and Outro

    46 min
  • 40. Facing My Mask with Charlene Chew

    In this episode of Before We Get There, host Nicholas Braman sits down with Charlene Chew, a creator and athlete widely recognized for her resilience following a traumatic burn accident. Charlene discusses the evolution of her relationship with fitness, moving from a bodybuilding background into calisthenics and shifting her focus toward nervous system regulation rather than pure performance. She shares a candid look at the "mask" required of a public creator and the mental health cost of maintaining a high-energy persona while processing deep, interconnected traumas.

    The conversation moves past the headlines of her recovery to explore the reality of her current transition, her decision to step back from the "grind" after a five-year sprint, and her search for a new identity that isn't defined by her past. Charlene also reflects on the burden of being viewed as a savior by her audience and her long-term goal of building something tangible to help others feel seen and safe.

    Charlene's links:
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/charlenechew/ 
    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@charlenechew3005 

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@charlenechew250 


    Podcast links:
    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2h9gsrWKH9C1KY1OzR12kr?si=2a4d19970632465f      
    Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/before-we-get-there/id1775182252
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beforewegettherepodcast/   
    Linktree: https://linktr.ee/nicholasbraman
    Website: https://nicholasbraman.com/podcast

    00:00 Introduction to Charlene Chew
    04:21 Training After the Accident: Scars, Comfort, and Nervous System Regulation
    06:48 Catching the Inner Critic: Therapy, Suppression, and Self-Repair
    12:34 Beyond ‘Burn Survivor’: Social Media Pressure, DMs, and Evolving Identity
    18:06 What’s Next? Rest, Slowing Down, and Blending Fitness + Beauty + Regulation
    23:07 The ‘Mask’ in Public: Triggers, Burn Scars, and Autopilot Mode
    31:11 Slowing Down to Process Trauma: Burnout, Grief, and Interconnected Healing
    37:00 Making Peace with ‘What If’: Identity, Appearance, Style, and Self-Acceptance
    39:30 Five-Year Vision + Where to Find Charlene (Closing & Subscribe)
    42 min
  • 39. Building On My Own Terms with Robert Lai
    In this episode of Before We Get There, host Nicholas Braman converses with Robert Lai, founder of Kaliber Performance Marketing Agency and leader of the APAC Marketers community. They delve into Robert's journey through various global markets, the startup challenges he faced, and the transformative impact of fatherhood on his professional outlook. Robert emphasizes the importance of building a robust company culture based on clear values and how he pivoted his networking approach to hosting events, thus accelerating relationship-building. They also discuss the significance of balancing commercial success with personal values and the mission to attract top talent and clients that align with their ethos. The episode offers insights on overcoming insecurities, leveraging both positive and negative energy for growth, and making strategic decisions to foster success and well-being in business and life.

    Robert's links:
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robertjlai/ 
    Kaliber: https://kaliber.asia/ 

    APAC Marketers: https://apacmarketers.com/ 


    Podcast links:
    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2h9gsrWKH9C1KY1OzR12kr?si=2a4d19970632465f      
    Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/before-we-get-there/id1775182252
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beforewegettherepodcast/   
    Linktree: https://linktr.ee/nicholasbraman
    Website: https://nicholasbraman.com/podcast

    00:00 Meet Robert Lai: Founder of Kaliber
    02:57 Challenges and Lessons in Business
    06:21 Cultural Differences in Work Environments
    10:49 Firing Clients and Building Team Culture
    16:54 Overcoming Personal and Professional Challenges
    22:52 Networking vs. Hosting
    27:40 Volunteering and Community Building
    33:06 Fatherhood and Priorities
    37:01 Future Goals and Aspirations
    40:42 Where to Find Rob and Kaliber
    43 min
  • 38. The Woman I Dress with Debbie Wong
    In this episode of Before We Get There, host Nicholas Braman sits down with Debbie Wong, a TV host and entrepreneur with a background in performing arts and culinary arts. Debbie shares her journey of growing up as an immigrant in Canada, her passion for food, and her venture into the world of YouTube and Food Network Asia. She talks about her transition back to Hong Kong, her experiences in front of the camera, and the lessons learned about self-worth and confidence. Debbie also dives into her new endeavor, Dressing the Woman, a personal style consultancy. Throughout the conversation, she reflects on her personal growth and the importance of stepping into her power.

    Debbie's links:
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ms.debbiewong/ 
    Dressing The Woman: https://www.instagram.com/dressingthewoman/ 


    Podcast links:
    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2h9gsrWKH9C1KY1OzR12kr?si=2a4d19970632465f      
    Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/before-we-get-there/id1775182252
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beforewegettherepodcast/   
    Linktree: https://linktr.ee/nicholasbraman
    Website: https://nicholasbraman.com/podcast

     
    00:00 Welcome and Introduction to Debbie Wong
    03:39 Starting a YouTube Channel
    05:13 Performing Arts and Acting Career
    10:59 Returning to Hong Kong
    17:46 Challenges of Hosting a TV Show
    22:18 Overcoming Self-Limiting Beliefs
    24:30 Starting a Fashion Consultancy
    28:54 Balancing Creativity and Business
    39:07 Future Goals and Personal Growth
    42:52 Closing Remarks and Social Media Links
    44 min
  • 37. Creating A Singapore Dream with Marion Muller (swizzyinsg)
    In this episode of Before We Get There, host Nicholas Beman chats with Marion Muller, also known as swizzyinsg, about her unexpected path to becoming a successful content creator in Singapore. Marion details her journey from a struggling job seeker to a full-time content creator, sharing her experiences with identity shifts, dealing with online hate, and building a supportive community. She emphasizes the importance of passion, resilience, and continuous learning in her career. This episode is particularly insightful for those in transitional phases and highlights the behind-the-scenes challenges and rewards of the content creation industry.

    Swizzy's links:
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/swizzyinsg/ 
    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@swizzyinsg 


    Podcast links:
    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2h9gsrWKH9C1KY1OzR12kr?si=2a4d19970632465f      
    Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/before-we-get-there/id1775182252
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beforewegettherepodcast/   
    Linktree: https://linktr.ee/nicholasbraman
    Website: https://nicholasbraman.com/podcast

    00:00 Marion Introduction and Early Struggles
    04:34 Starting the Content Creation Journey
    12:43 Dealing with Hate and Negativity
    20:12 Balancing Authenticity and Sponsorships
    26:21 Mindset and Motivation
    34:40 Building Local Connections
    39:34 The Drive to Learn and Grow
    42:13 The Reality Behind the Scenes
    45:00 Final Thoughts and Farewell
    48 min
  • 36. Behind the Red Nose with Shanice Stanislaus
    In this special Christmas episode of Before We Get There, host Nicholas Braman interviews professional clown Shanice Stanislaus. Shanice shares her unique journey from being a serious student to discovering her passion for clowning, despite cultural expectations. They discuss the challenges she faced gaining acceptance back home, how she found validation abroad, and the importance of joy and playfulness in life. Shanice also talks about her mission to introduce clowning to more people in Singapore, the barriers to creativity, and how she helps others reconnect with their inner joy. Tune in for a heartfelt discussion on embracing one's true self and the transformative power of humor.

    Shanice's links:
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shanicestanislaus/ 
    Website: https://creativesinspirit.com/ 


    Podcast links:
    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2h9gsrWKH9C1KY1OzR12kr?si=2a4d19970632465f      
    Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/before-we-get-there/id1775182252
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beforewegettherepodcast/   
    Linktree: https://linktr.ee/nicholasbraman
    Website: https://nicholasbraman.com/podcast

     
    00:00 Meet Shanice Stanislaus: The Professional Clown
    03:00 Discovering Clowning at NYU
    06:52 Balancing a Marketing Job and Clowning
    08:46 The Turning Point: Clown School in France
    19:01 Challenges and Successes in Singapore
    22:07 Facing Rejection and Perseverance
    26:27 Finding Validation Abroad
    31:17 Teaching Clowning in Singapore
    39:12 Encouraging Playfulness in Children
    42:03 Future Aspirations and Closing Remarks
    46 min
  • 35. The Songs My Eyes Hear with Neonomora
    In this episode of Before We Get There, host Nicholas Braman interviews Neonomora, an award-winning indie musician from Jakarta, Indonesia. Known for her dark and electrifying sound, Neonomora shares her experiences and influences, including the impact of motherhood, her musical evolution, and the challenges of being an outcast. She reflects on her early life in various countries, her struggle with bullying, and how these shaped her identity as an artist. Neonomora also discusses the pressure of maintaining success, the importance of genuine artistic expression, and her upcoming album, inspired by significant life changes, including becoming a mother and her parents' divorce during the pandemic.

    Neonomora's links:
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/neonomora/ 
    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/0wETOVaHW3AJa8mB6zFo2F?si=mGSOZOdwSaCgFFfNoHuaKg 
    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NEONOMORA 


    Podcast links:
    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2h9gsrWKH9C1KY1OzR12kr?si=2a4d19970632465f      
    Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/before-we-get-there/id1775182252
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beforewegettherepodcast/   
    Linktree: https://linktr.ee/nicholasbraman
    Website: https://nicholasbraman.com/podcast

     

    00:00 Introduction to Music Artist Neonomra
    03:28 Early Musical Influences and Synesthesia
    07:30 Parental Expectations and Career Challenges
    10:16 Living Abroad and Cultural Experiences
    14:34 Artistic Growth and Musical Journey
    20:15 The Artist's Journey: Embracing the Present
    24:42 The Evolution of an Artist: From Dark to Bright
    28:58 New Beginnings: Motherhood and Inspiration
    36:05 Adapting to Change: Lessons from Different Places
    40:44 Looking Forward: Future Projects and Inspirations
    43 min
  • 34. Fishy Business with Cassandra Ong

    In this episode of Before We Get There, host Nicholas Braman interviews Cassandra Ong, founder of Otter Half marketing agency. Cassandra shares her experience of being laid off, which led her to start her own business. They discuss the creation of Ottie's Fishy Business, a marketing card game for kids, and the challenges and successes of running her own agency. Additionally, Cassandra talks about the differences between working in startups and MNCs, the importance of work-life balance, and how building a personal brand on LinkedIn has opened new doors for her professionally. The conversation also delves into the personal aspects of navigating work and family life, especially as a mother and business owner.

    Cassandra's links:
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cassandraong/ 
    Otter Half Website: https://www.otterhalf.co/ 
    Marketing Card Game: https://www.otterhalf.co/otties-fishy-business 


    Podcast links:
    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2h9gsrWKH9C1KY1OzR12kr?si=2a4d19970632465f      
    Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/before-we-get-there/id1775182252
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beforewegettherepodcast/   
    Linktree: https://linktr.ee/nicholasbraman
    Website: https://nicholasbraman.com/podcast

     

    00:00 Introducing the Podcast and Today's Guest

    02:00 Cassandra Ong's Marketing Card Game for Kids

    08:56 Transitioning from Startups to MNCs

    15:43 Navigating Career Challenges and Layoffs

    21:54 Starting Otter Half: Overcoming Self-Doubt

    25:02 Navigating Sales and Real Business Challenges

    34:37 Balancing Work and Family Life

    38:48 Looking Ahead: Future Goals and Aspirations

    43 min

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Before We Get There is a podcast about resilience, pivots, and the unfinished paths we all walk. Host Nicholas Braman sits down with creatives, athletes, chefs, entrepreneurs, and…