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In today's podcast, we're joined by Tim Seims, Director of Building Products Intelligence for John Burns Real Estate Consulting.
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“Having seen the demand on the consumer side for the health and wellness and that kind of not just smart home technology and wearables but actual real tie to building materials and health and wellness and building science, and the demand on the single-family builder/operator/developer side and the competitiveness to have an ESG strategy that answers that demand. I think that those two are dovetailing. And right in the middle, I think is building automation and building system technology. So I could see a world where I couldn't see a year ago in these conversations. That the money and the smart big money coming into single family build-for-rent, that is going to drive innovation in those products just because they have a completely different outlook on it than for-sale product. I run our lumber and building material surveys so we represent about -- but depending on the month, between 750 and 950 independent lumberyard locations across the United States. So we asked them questions about their inventory and sales and categories and stuff like that.
We asked them about how they would rank the 4 Ls: lumber, labor, lots and logistics, in terms of what they are experiencing in their businesses and what they hear their builders experiences so those 2. But by far, labor was the highest. But when you look at the graph, you think, ‘In this one question, lumber was the highest.’ But the big problem in lumber isn't the actual wood, it's all the labor inputs along the way.
So there aren't enough loggers. And then there aren't enough -- the mills would love to run 3 shifts but they're running 2 a lot of them, and it's because of absenteeism and already there was a kind of a dearth of unskilled -- even unskilled labor for those roles and even harder with skilled leads in the lumber, in the woods and then also the millwrights.
The inputs of labor to a lot of raw materials are actually the problem. It's not necessarily the raw material.”