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Join Lucy, one of the co-hosts of the award-winning podcast 'A Beginner's Guide to Design Thinking' as she introduces her new podcast 'The Long Game with Lucy Patterson'.
A podcast for people noticing that the old systems feelincreasingly out of sync with the lives we’re actually living.
Expanding on her work in design thinking, she explores conversations based on the growing longevity economy and the intricacies of being alive at a point where human beings are suddenly living much longer lives than many of our institutions were ever built for.
This podcast is where Lucy and her guests process what this means from a design and cultural perspective. So join her for honest, intelligent conversations about identity, systems, culture, curiosity, and building lives and ideas that can actually last.
We’re all living longer. So we all need to get better at playing the long game.
Search 'The Long Game with Lucy Patterson' wherever you usually listen to your podcasts, then make sure you hit follow so you never miss an episode.
Episode 1 drops Monday 1st June 2026!
You can also find Lucy on Substack where she writes about the same topic.
Here are the links to the bodies of work mentioned by the listeners who asked us questions this episode:
Candor Dennis - The Event Playbook Coffee Chat Series
Liz Atkin - Refreshing Comms
Vaughan Broderick - Innovation Playbook
In this reflective episode, Lucy and Tracy celebrate three years of their design thinking podcast, sharing personal growth stories, podcast successes, and lessons learned.
They engage with listener questions, discuss the importance of empathy in design thinking, and explore the future of the discipline, particularly around longevity, education and leadership.
The hosts also share humorous moments from their podcasting journey and reflect on the significance of external validation.
As 2026 looms, Lucy looks forward to releasing her solo spin-off podcast 'Rebel by Design (Thinking)' and Tracy looks forward to starting a new role. They both express excitement for future projects and the continued evolution of design thinking within their chosen fields.
Key takeaways:
As we press pause on our recordings for now, we'd like to thank every single listener and supporter. We've been blown away by the reach, engagement and connections we've had the pleasure of making this past 3 years. Don't forget to tune into Lucy's solo spin-off 'Rebel by Design (Thinking) in the new year.
In this episode, Lucy and Tracy explore the critical role of communication in design thinking and collaboration.
They discuss various communication styles, the impact of neurodiversity, and the importance of creating inclusive spaces for effective communication.
The conversation emphasises the need for empathy, avoiding jargon, and fostering curiosity to enhance understanding.
They also provide practical tips for facilitating brainstorming sessions and ensuring clarity in communication, ultimately highlighting that effective communication is essential for innovation and teamwork.
key takeaways:
Chapters:
00:00 The Importance of Communication in Design Thinking
02:52 Understanding Communication Styles
05:41 Neurodiversity and Communication
08:46 Creating Inclusive Communication Spaces
11:25 The Role of Empathy in Communication
14:20 Overcoming Jargon and Assumptions
17:07 Facilitating Effective Brainstorming Sessions
20:00 Designing for Clarity and Connection
23:02 Communication Do's and Don'ts
25:44 Final Thoughts on Communication and Innovation
In this episode, Tracy Sharp discusses two influential books in the realm of design thinking: 'The Design of Everyday Things' by Don Norman and 'Designing Your Life' by Dave Evans and Bill Burnett.
Tracy emphasises the importance of understanding user behavior in design and how design thinking principles can be applied to career development. The conversation highlights the significance of prototyping, iterative processes, and being clear about personal values to enhance both product design and life design.
Key Takeaways:
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction to Design Thinking Books
05:09 The Design of Everyday Things by Don Norman
09:51 Designing Your Life by Bill Burnett and Dave Evans
In this mini-episode, Lucy Patterson explores the themes of design thinking, creativity, and the importance of embracing the messy middle in life and business.
She reviews two impactful books, 'Tiny Experiments' by Anne Laure Le Cunff, and 'The Fax Club Experiment', by David Hieatt & The 32; sharing insights on how small, iterative actions can lead to significant growth and understanding.
The discussion emphasises the value of curiosity, reflection, and community in navigating life's challenges.
Key takeaways:
Chapters:
In this episode Lucy and Tracy explore the multifaceted nature of innovation, emphasising the importance of iterative processes, understanding customer needs, and the role of design thinking in creating impactful solutions.
They discuss concepts like painstorming and jobs to be done, highlighting how small changes can lead to significant value. The conversation also touches on the importance of inclusivity and delight in design, as well as the necessity of implementation for successful innovation.
Chapters:
00:00 The Essence of Innovation
03:12 Understanding Innovation vs. Invention
06:05 The Concept of Painstorming
08:59 Jobs to Be Done: Adding Value
11:54 Iterative Innovation and Customer Focus
15:05 Design Thinking for Community and Sustainability
18:01 Questioning Assumptions in Innovation
21:31 Delight and Inclusivity in Design
24:22 Implementation: The Key to Successful Innovation
27:32 Learning from Past Innovations
30:21 The Future of Innovation.Key takeaways:
In this episode Lucy Patterson and Tracy Sharp explore the theme of vulnerability and its critical role in design thinking and creative spaces.
They share personal stories of vulnerability, discuss the gender dynamics surrounding it, and emphasise the importance of creating safe spaces for open communication.
The conversation also highlights practical tools and techniques to encourage vulnerability in workshops; ultimately linking it to innovation and authenticity in both personal and professional contexts.
Chapters:
00:00 The Power of Vulnerability in Design Thinking
02:57 Personal Stories of Vulnerability
06:02 The Impact of Vulnerability on Creativity
09:08 Gender Dynamics and Vulnerability
12:12 Creating Safe Spaces for Vulnerability
14:58 Tools for Encouraging Vulnerability in Workshops
18:01 The Role of Vulnerability in Innovation
21:28 Final Thoughts on Vulnerability and Design Thinking
Key takeaways:
In this episode, Lucy and Tracy explore the transformative power of curiosity within the context of design thinking.
They discuss the science behind curiosity, its role in personal and professional growth, and how it can be harnessed as a tool for innovation.
The conversation delves into different types of curiosity, the importance of creating safe, bold spaces for exploration, and how curiosity can lead to meaningful life design.
The hosts emphasise that while curiosity is essential, it must be paired with intention and clarity to drive effective outcomes.
Soundbites:
'Curiosity isn't just a nice to have, it's built into our daily interactions like a cognitive superpower.'
'Curiosity lights up the reward circuitry of your brain like the billboards on Times Square.'
'You need to feed your curiosity.'
Chapters:
00:00 The Power of Curiosity
01:27 Curiosity in Conversations
05:15 Curiosity and Brain Science
09:58 Curiosity vs. Chaos
10:48 Types of Curiosity
15:36 Making the Connection to Curiosity in Design Thinking
18:29 The Power of Curiosity in Understanding Others
19:46 Creating Safe Spaces for Exploration
23:33 The Robot, Pirate, Ninja Framework
28:28 Curiosity as a Life Design Tool
33:35 Curiosity as a Superpower for Growth
36:20 Practical Tips for Cultivating Curiosity
39:14 Next Episode - Design Thinking & VulnerabilityTopics: curiosity, design thinking, personal growth, professional development, creativity, problem solving, brain science, safe spaces, life design, innovation.
In this episode, Lucy and Tracy explore the relevance of design thinking in the age of artificial intelligence.
They discuss the historical context of AI, its integration into design processes, and the importance of maintaining a humanity-centered approach.
The conversation emphasises the need for empathy, creativity, and the unique insights that only humans can provide; even as AI becomes a more prevalent tool in design thinking.
Soundbites:
7:24 - 'AI is like the Ozempic of the corporate world.'
9:10 - 'Have we been mis-using design thinking in ways AIcan now replicate easily?'
12:57 - 'How do we integrate it without losing thehuman magic? That’s the brief.'
13:49 - 'It’s amazing for breadth, but it's got jack sh*t intuition.'
23:15 - 'I basically work to the principal of AI fast, then human slow, and AI plus human intelligence is where the true magic lies.'
28:59 - 'When we test with real humans, we spot the moments AI misses - that's the stuff that matters most. Design thinking is about empathy, creativity and testing. If we skip those steps, we’re not using AI, we’re just avoiding the hard stuff.'
Key takeaways:
In this episode, Lucy and Tracy delve into the critical role that empathy plays in design thinking; emphasising its importance in creating products and services that truly meet the needs of users.
They discuss the consequences of neglecting empathy, share personal anecdotes, and provide practical tools and steps for fostering empathy in design processes.
The conversation highlights the need for inclusivity and accessibility in design, encouraging listeners to reflect on their own biases and assumptions.
Key takeaways:
Sound bites:
Chapters:
00:00 Welcome Back and Season Three Introduction
01:08 Understanding Empathy in Design
02:28 The Importance of Empathy in Design Thinking
03:28 The Consequences of Lacking Empathy
07:20 Empathy in Everyday Life and Design
09:41 Tools for Enhancing Empathy
14:39 Practical Steps to Foster Empathy
19:56 Empathy Audit and Conclusion
From the publisher's feed
Welcome to A Beginner's Guide to Design Thinking, the perfect podcast for curious souls eager to harness the power of design thinking to level up their business and personal…
Join your hosts - Lucy Patterson and Tracy Sharp - two Northern lasses passionate about helping people like you disrupt the status quo. We’re here to boost your business performance while reigniting your zest for life. No "but we've always done it that way" excuses allowed!
We'll guide you through the process of figuring out what you want, experimenting with how to get it, and embracing failure as a stepping stone to success. You’ll learn how to apply those lessons, tweak your approach, and keep evolving - all while keeping it fun, and scientifically backed. It might get a little messy - but not crayon-on-your-sweater messy!
From our own experiences and expertise - failures included - we’ll make sure you never feel alone on this creative journey.
So let us hold your hand as you empower yourself with design thinking, getting closer to your goals without the frustration.
Once you’ve finished listening, we have two small requests: