Behaviour Speak with Ben Reiman

How do neurodivergent youth experience schools, juvenile justice systems, and the adults responsible for supporting them?

In this episode, Ben Reiman is joined by Dr. Larome Myrick, Executive Director of Youth Justice for the State of Rhode Island, and Anthony Bronaugh Sr., BCBA, educator, and former school principal. Drawing on decades of experience in corrections, education, and behaviour analysis, they explore how neurodivergent youth have historically been misunderstood, mislabeled, and underserved. The conversation examines the intersection of behaviour analysis, trauma-informed care, juvenile justice, and education while highlighting practical ways systems can move beyond punishment-based approaches.

Larome and Anthony discuss the realities of correctional classrooms, the importance of early identification and support, how stigma continues to impact families and communities, and why collaboration across systems is essential. They also share their vision for creating environments where neurodivergent youth are understood, supported, and given opportunities to thrive. Whether you're a behaviour analyst, educator, school administrator, social worker, policymaker, or parent, this episode offers valuable insights into building more responsive and humane systems for young people.

Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/bOxkDthDgFg

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Contact Dr. Larome Myrick

https://www.linkedin.com/in/laromemyrick/

Contact Anthony Bronaugh, Sr.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/anthony-bronaugh-sr-m-ed-bcba-coba-747139211/

In this powerful and deeply reflective conversation, Dr. Tibetha Kemble challenges us to rethink what we believe about colonization, reconciliation, and responsibility.

Together, we explore how settler colonialism isn’t just history—it’s an ongoing system that shapes institutions, relationships, and everyday life in ways many of us struggle to see.

This episode invites you to move beyond performative actions and into deeper reflection, asking one of the most important—and uncomfortable—questions:

👉 What are you willing to lose?

Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/HCQ4DW87tmA

Contact Tibetha:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/tibetha-kemble-stonechild-phd-37231841/

Links and Resources:

Len Pierre Consulting

https://www.lenpierreconsulting.com/

Native Land Indigenous Territories Map

https://native-land.ca/

Women and Children's Health Research Institute

https://www.wchri.org/our-impact/stories/wchri-welcomes-tibetha-kemble-stonechild-as-academic-lead-of-indigenous-womens-health-research/

Wâpanachakos Indigenous Health Program

https://www.ualberta.ca/en/medicine/programs/indigenous-health-program/index.html

Braiding Sweetgrass By Robin Wall Kimmerer

https://www.robinwallkimmerer.com/books

In episode 273 of Behaviour Speak, we’re joined by Mikala Chee of the Diné (Navajo) Nation, Sanoe Rapozo, a Native Hawaiian,  and Abbey Woldt of the Ho-Chunk Nation—three Indigenous undergraduate scholars whose work spans nursing, psychology, and neuroscience. Together, they share their journeys into higher education, the challenges of navigating predominantly Western academic systems, and their collaboration on a community research team (CRT) mentored by Dr. Anna Fetter and focused on developing culturally grounded measures of stress and mental health for Indigenous college students. This conversation explores what happens when Indigenous students not only enter academia—but begin to reshape it.

Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/r4guaLEQhi0

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Connect with Mikala

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikala-chee-14b36b387/

Links: 

All Our Kin 

https://www.instagram.com/allourkincollective/

SPEx Lab at Fort Lewis College

https://faculty.fortlewis.edu/amborgella/SPExLab/

Dr. Melissa Teehee's Tohi Lab

https://www.tohilab.org/

Connect with Sanoe

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sanoe-rapozo/

Links:

https://uhpress.hawaii.edu/title/the-past-before-us-mo%CA%BBoku%CA%BBauhau-as-methodology/

Native American Indigenous Student Alliance

https://duke.campusgroups.com/naisa/home/

Karsh STEM Fellowship

https://undergrad.duke.edu/intellectual-community/student-faculty-engagement-office/karsh-stem-program/karsh-stem-scholars/

Connect with Abbey

LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/abbey-woldt-8b09a0350/

Links:

https://teachlearn.wisc.edu/first-nations-cultural-landscape-tour/

UW Madison Native American Center for Health Professions

https://nachp.med.wisc.edu/

The Society For Indian Psychologists:

https://www.nativepsychs.org/

https://www.nativepsychs.org/sip-mentorship-program

Related Episodes:

Mentorship as Medicine with Dr. Anna Kawennison Fetter

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/mentorship-as-medicine-with-anna-kawennison-fetter-phd-edm/

Cultural Responsiveness in ABA:  A Hawaiian Perspective with Dr. Naomi Tachera and Dr. Sara Sato

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-245-cultural-responsiveness-in-aba-a-hawaiian-perspective-with-dr-naomi-tachera-and-dr-sara-sato/

Indigenous School Psychology with Dr. Lisa Aguilar, Bryanna Kinilicheene, and Wamnuga Win

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-107-indigenous-school-psychology-with-lisa-aguilar-bryanna-kinilicheene-and-wamnuga-win-kiva-sam/

In this episode, I’m joined by Dr. Jewel Parham and Dr. Danielle Jeudy to explore representation, mentorship, and systemic change in behaviour analysis. Grounded in their work ACTing for Change, we unpack how values-driven action and organizational accountability can move the field beyond awareness into meaningful change. We discuss the realities behind the statistic that only ~5.83% of BCBAs identify as Black, and how that impacts access to mentorship, supervision, leadership, and opportunity. The conversation dives into the distinction between mentorship and sponsorship, the importance of building pipelines—not just hiring—and why sustainable systems matter more than performative equity efforts. We also explore emotional and cultural labour, barriers to supervision, and how ACT principles can guide organizations toward measurable, values-aligned change.

Register for the BABA Conference to see both of Dr. Parham's and Dr. Jeudy's presentations live or online!

https://babainfo.org/convention/

Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/UvFs0oNVbi4

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BACB: 1.0 Supervision

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Connect with Danielle

Dr. Danielle Jeudy at Navigate Behavioral Health

https://www.navigatebh.com/

LinkedIn

https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielle-s-jeudy-phd-bcba-d-lba-14a69b3a/

Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/behaviordj/

Connect with Jewel

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drjewelparham/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dr.behaviorjawn/

Related Episodes:

Building Community in Behaviour Analysis with Dr. Jewel Parham

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-223-building-community-in-behavior-analysis-with-dr-jewel-parham

Colorism in Context with Dr. Danielle Jeudy

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-224-colorism-in-context-with-dr-danielle-jeudy/

Training the Next Generation of Black Behaviour Analysts at Florida A&M University

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-237-an-hbcu-first-training-the-next-generation-of-black-behavior-analysts-at-florida-am-university/

What if the biggest problem in ABA isn’t the client—but the system?

In this episode, Ben sits down with Michael Conteh to unpack the hidden forces shaping burnout, turnover, and growth in ABA organizations. Drawing from decades of experience scaling a company and consulting across the field, Michael breaks down why traditional clinical thinking alone isn’t enough—and how leaders can evolve to meet the complexity of modern ABA.

Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/Zgld4ZvRgR8

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Connect with Michael 

https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-conteh-bcba/

https://www.balancecoachingconsulting.com/

https://www.parentempowermentcoaching.com/

Related Episodes:

Forging Black Leaders in Behaviour Analysis with Portia James

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-142-creating-a-powerhouse-forging-black-leaders-in-behavior-analysis/

The Next Generation of Black Leaders in Behaviour Analysis with Adrienne Bradley

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-76-the-next-generation-of-black-leaders-in-behavior-analysis-empowering-success-with-adrienne-bradley-med-bcba-lba/

In this episode of Behaviour Speak, Ben Reiman is joined by Dianna Yip, behaviour analyst and practitioner with over a decade of experience building services in Hong Kong.

Dianna shares her journey from Vancouver to Hong Kong and what it was like entering a system with limited services, minimal regulation, and little awareness of ABA or PBS. Over time, she helped grow access, build community, and shift perceptions—often starting from scratch.

This conversation explores how culture shapes behaviour support, from parenting expectations to professional practice. Dianna explains why positive behaviour support (PBS) has been more readily accepted than ABA in Hong Kong, and how language, history, and collaboration play a role.

Together, they unpack:

The conversation also dives into emerging ideas that are still gaining traction in the region:

Dianna also shares her work in building international practitioner communities, including the Global PBS Coalition, aimed at bringing more diverse perspectives into behaviour science.

This is a thoughtful, grounded conversation about what happens when behavioural science meets culture—and how we can do better when we listen, adapt, and stay curious.

Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/rr7g18L9J-M

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Find Diana here!

LinkedIn

https://www.linkedin.com/in/dianna-yip-plai/

PBS Asia

https://www.pbsa.asia/

P.L.A.I. Consulting

https://plaiconsulting.com/

Resources:

The Global PBS Coalition

https://globalpbscoalition.org/

Related Episodes:

Empowering The Chinese Autism Community 

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-212-empowering-the-chinese-autism-community-with-hazel-lim/

Reclaiming the Constructional Approach in PBS with Dr. John Wooderson and Oliver Roschke

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/beyond-behaviour-reduction-reclaiming-the-constructional-approach-in-pbs-with-oliver-roschke-john-wooderson/  

Family Centred Positive Behaviour Support with Dr. Joe Lucyshyn

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-43-family-centred-positive-behaviour-support-with-dr-joseph-lucyshyn-phd-bcba-d-part-1/

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-44-family-centred-positive-behaviour-support-with-dr-joseph-lucyshyn-phd-bcba-d-part-2/

What does truly culturally responsive autism support look like—and who should lead it?

In this episode, Ben speaks with Dr. Davis Henderson, Dr. Candi Running Bear, and Dr. Olivia Lindly about their work adapting the Parents Taking Action program for Diné (Navajo) families. Together, they unpack how geography, language, family structure, and cultural values shape access to autism services—and how their team is working alongside communities to close those gaps.

From telehealth delivery across vast rural regions to adapting AAC tools in Indigenous languages, this conversation highlights what it really takes to move beyond “one-size-fits-all” care.

The team also shares their innovative next step: empowering parents to train educators—flipping the traditional model of expertise on its head.

Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/XWkC-7l19is

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Dr. Davis Henderson – Associate Professor, Northern Arizona University. Navajo researcher focused on communication disorders and culturally responsive care.

https://directory.nau.edu/?person=dh929

Dr. Candi Running Bear – Assistant Professor, University of New Mexico. Former special education teacher with deep experience in early childhood education on the Navajo Nation.

https://coehs.unm.edu/faculty-staff/profiles/running-bear-candi.html

Dr. Olivia Lindly – Associate Professor, Northern Arizona University. Public health researcher focused on maternal and child health and autism services.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/olivia-lindly-phd-mph-3323306/

https://directory.nau.edu/?person=ojl28

Research Discussed:

Lindly OJ, Running Bear CL, Henderson DE, Lopez K, Nozadi SS, Vining C, Bia S, Hill E and Leaf A (2023). Adaptation of the Parents Taking Action program for Diné (Navajo) parents of children with autism. Front. Educ. 8:1197197. doi: 10.3389/feduc.2023.1197197

Lindly, O., Running Bear, C., Henderson, D. E., Kirby, B. R., Begay, V., Shui, A., Dababnah, S., & Magaña, S. M. (2025). Pilot study of a strengths-based education program for Diné (Navajo) families of autistic children: Feasibility, fidelity, acceptability, and initial outcomes. Research in Autism, 127, 202658. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.reia.2025.202658

Related Episodes:

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-37-the-realities-of-autism-in-first-nations-communities-in-canada-with-grant-bruno-phd-candidate/

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-147-culturally-responsive-care-in-indigenous-communities-with-dr-jaxcy-turietta/

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/behavior-analysis-and-indigenous-ways-of-being-with-leslie-peters

In this episode of Behaviour Speak, Ben Reiman sits down with Dr. Anna Kawennison Fetter, Indigenous licensed psychologist (enrolled member of the Saint Regis Mohawk Tribe), Assistant Professor at Duke School of Medicine in the Department of Psychiatry & Behavioural Sciences. They explore how Indigenous mental health is shaped by history, invisibility, and academic systems that were never designed to include Indigenous people.

Why recruitment without structural change doesn’t work

Historical loss vs. intergenerational trauma

Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/9q86FBWMe2c

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BACB: 1.5 Ethics

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Contact Dr. Fetter:

https://psychiatry.duke.edu/profile/anna-fetter

https://www.annakawennison.com/

Research Discussed:

Fetter, A. K., Christophe, N. K., & Thompson, M. N. (2025). Measurement invariance of the revised multigroup ethnic identity measure among a national sample of Native American and Alaska Native college students. Cultural Diversity & Ethnic Minority Psychology. Advance online publication. https://doi.org/10.1037/cdp0000758

Fetter, A. K., Wiglesworth, A., Rey, L. F., Young, A. R., Azarani, M., & Gone, J. P. (2024). Supporting the Next Generation of Indigenous Psychologists: An Illustrative Case Example. The Counseling Psychologist, 52(7), 1174-1202. https://doi.org/10.1177/00110000241283697

Fetter, A.K., Williams, M. & Thompson, M.N. Perceived Racial Misclassification Among Native American and Alaska Native College Students: Preliminary Evidence for a Culturally Relevant Stressor. Race Soc Probl 18, 27 (2026). https://doi.org/10.1007/s12552-026-09493-1

Fetter, A. K., & Thompson, M. N. (2023). The impact of historical loss on Native American college students' mental health: The protective role of ethnic identity. Journal of Counselling Psychology, 70(5), 486–497. https://doi.org/10.1037/cou0000686

Today on Behaviour Speak, Ben sits down with Dr. Ammara Khalid for a powerful conversation on the intergenerational impact of the 1947 Partition of South Asia.

Together, they explore one of the largest mass migrations in human history and the trauma, displacement, silence, and resilience that continue to shape generations across the South Asian diaspora.

Drawing from her clinical work, research, and her own family’s migration story, Dr. Khalid discusses how trauma is passed through families not only through stories, but also through silence, survival patterns, cultural expectations, and the body itself.

Ben and Dr. Khalid discuss:

This episode is an important conversation about memory, migration, resilience, and healing — and about learning how to honour our histories without being trapped by them.

Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/-Hp9ZPVZY9Q

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Resources

 The Partition Museum - https://www.partitionmuseum.org/

Recorded live at the 2025 Ontario Association for Behaviour Analysis conference, this episode brings together three conversations highlighting innovation across clinical practice, staff training, and systems-level change. From parent-friendly frameworks to improving treatment integrity in group homes to advancing assent-based care through skill-based treatment—this episode captures where the field is heading.

Watch this interview on YouTube:  https://youtu.be/7ZpBY8Bz8vU

Interview #1

1. Conrad Leung & Dr. Jenny Demark Co-authors of Complex Kids, Simple Solutions Integrated psychology + behaviour analysis practice The “Prepare, Teach, Motivate” framework Making behaviour science accessible to families

Contact:

Child Solutions 

https://www.childsolutions.ca/

Follow Child Solutions:

Facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/childsolutions

Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/child.solutions/

Links:

Complex Kids, Simple Solutions – Indigo link - 

https://www.indigo.ca/en-ca/complex-kids-simple-solutions-how-to-raise-resilient-confident-likeable-kids/9781923011250.html

Read a sample of the book here: 

 https://octopusbooks.ca/item/enFZofQQtileYrAyAXrZPA 

Interview #2

2. Tina Saycocie, Kayla Almeida, Alana Farnum, and Luxsi Kirupanayagam (Kerry's Place - Poster Presentation)

Improving treatment integrity in supported living, increasing staff buy-in and data collection, collaboration between clinical and operational teams, real-world barriers: training, retention, and systems

Contact: 

Kerry's Place

https://kerrysplace.org/

https://www.instagram.com/kerrysplaceautismservices/

https://www.linkedin.com/company/kerry's-place-autism-services/posts/?feedView=all

https://www.facebook.com/kerrysplaceautismservices/

Interview #3

3. Kehinde Olawale & Maddie Moshe – Progressive Steps Training staff in Skill-Based Treatment (SBT) Using Behavioural Skills Training (BST) Assent, HRE (Happy, Relaxed, Engaged), and modern ABA Moving beyond compliance-based models

Contact: 

Kehinde Olawale

https://www.linkedin.com/in/kehinde-olawale-35105a190/

Maddie Moshe

https://www.linkedin.com/in/marialena-maddie-moshe-mped-bcba-r-b-a-ont-1361301a5/

Links:

Progressive Steps

https://www.progressivesteps.ca/

https://www.instagram.com/progressivesteps