Surveys are not just a way for a law firm to know the numbers and to gain information. It also helps strengthen the firm's relationship with its associates.

One of the top legal news services in the country, Law360, conducts the Glass Ceiling Survey — and this centers Kathryn's discussion with Law360's Kerry Benn. Kerry presents not only the numbers that result from the Glass Ceiling Survey, she also talks about the disparity between the law school numbers and the actual law firm numbers and what she thinks are the reasons why there are fewer women, especially women of color, in the field.

Episode Resources

• https://muckrack.com/kgbenn1
• https://www.law360.com/ Episode Highlights
• How Kerry Benn entered Law 360 and her background. - 1:12
• Deciding on her priorities needs more in-depth surveys. - 2:37
• How Kerry came up with the questions to use for the Glass Ceiling Survey. - 4:14
• Is there a difference between the actual lived experiences of the associates than the lofty statements that others put out? - 10:22
• The big results and the surprising data from the Glass Ceiling Survey. - 12:00
• Women of color: The disparity between law school numbers and law firm numbers.- 14:37
• Tracking the differences between equity partnership and non-equity partnership and why the numbers are dropping. - 16:35
• Which pieces of data are useful for law firms who want to do better? - 17:24
• Kerry's experience being a champion of Jeopardy in the past. - 23:15 Subscribe, Share, and Review To get the next episode subscribe with your favorite podcast player.
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