Kathryn Rubino chats with Elizabeth Kelley, a dedicated criminal defense attorney fighting for justice for individuals with mental disabilities. Kelley shares her journey from literature student to a passionate advocate in a field needing reform. Her insights into mental health law and her hands-on approach to client representation are inspiring and thought-provoking. Tune in to discover why compassion and understanding are vital in the legal world, and how her work hopes to shape a more inclusive justice system.

Highlights

• Balancing humanities and law.
• Outrage about mental disabilities.
• Finding fulfillment in criminal defense.
• Starting a law firm.
• Lessons from opening a practice.
• Importance of wellness and coaching.
• Mental wellness in law school.
• Writing practical guides for lawyers.
• Value of independent forensic evaluations.
• A powerful courtroom experience.
• The role of problem-solving courts.
• Advice for pursuing justice for mental disabilities.

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Links and Resources

• https://www.elizabethkelleylaw.com/
• https://www.elizabethkelleylaw.com/books/
• https://www.elizabethkelleylaw.com/podcast/
• https://www.linkedin.com/in/elizabeth-kelley-14110430/  

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Kathryn Rubino chats with Mary Anne Franks, a leading voice in Intellectual Property and Civil Rights Law. Uncover the essence of fearless speech and why it’s crucial in today’s world. Explore bold concepts from her new book that challenge conventional First Amendment beliefs. A must-listen for anyone intrigued by legal boundaries and free speech dynamics!

Highlights

• Life and career updates since 2020.
• Transition from Miami to George Washington University.
• Balancing academia and publication.
• Clear communication as education and writing goal.
• Importance of free speech.
• Why focus on the First Amendment in the second book.
• The constant evolution of First Amendment discussions.
• Public and legal misconceptions about censorship.
• Members of Congress misunderstanding censorship.
• New framework for evaluating and understanding free speech.
• Definition and importance of “Fearless Speech.”
• Story of Dorothy Thompson as an example of fearless speech.
• Difference between protecting and promoting speech.
• University campuses and the issue of controversial speakers.

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Links and Resources

• https://www.amazon.com/Fearless-Speech-Breaking-First-Amendment/dp/1645030539/ref=sr_1_1
• https://www.law.gwu.edu/mary-anne-franks
• https://cybercivilrights.org/  

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In this episode, host Kathryn Rubino interviews Dale Margolin Cecka, Albany Law School professor and director of family violence litigation. Discover her journey in law, challenges in child advocacy, and insights on family law education. Gain a deeper understanding of domestic violence legislation, its impact on survivors, and potential legal reforms. A must-listen for anyone interested in law, justice, and societal change!

Highlights

• Why law school: a journey to child advocacy.
• Transition from child advocacy to family law.
• Challenges with systems in child advocacy.
• Discovering a passion for family law.
• Law school clinics: bridging practice and theory.
• Role of clinics in true legal education.
• Traits that align with family law practice.
• Violence Against Women Act's impact and shortcomings.
• Critical issues with protective orders enforcement.
• Need for public education on domestic abuse.
• Future of domestic violence law reform.

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Links and Resources

• https://www.linkedin.com/in/dale-margolin-cecka-202255165/
• https://www.salon.com/2024/08/21/it-ends-with-us-domestic-violence-lawyer/
• https://www.commondreams.org/opinion/domestic-violence-rebecca-cheptegei
• https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/IPV-Prevention-Resource_508.pdf#:~:text=Data%20from%20the%20National%20Intimate%20Partner%20and%20Sexual,etc.%29%20from%20an%20intimate%20partner%20in%20their%20lifetime
• https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/child-custody-evaluators-beliefs-about-domestic-abuse-allegations  

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Join host Kathryn as she chats with Luba Shur, author of “Rule 23” about her journey from law to novelist. Discover her insights on legal ethics, the myth of class actions, and how she balances writing with a legal career. A must-listen for aspiring lawyer-authors!

Highlights

• Intersection of reality and fantasy in career choice
• Early reading and legal career expectations
• Surprising twists and interesting outcomes in legal career
• Balancing writing and legal career
• Rule 23 as a skewer of legal profession dysfunction
• Inspiration behind the character Vera
• Creating compelling flawed characters
• Challenges of legal ethics and ambition
• Significance of mentorship and legal education critique
• Reality of Rule 23 and litigation process
• Future writing projects exploring startup culture
• Advice for balancing legal careers with writing

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Links and Resources

• https://www.amazon.in/dp/B0D8K6SJXS?ref=cm_sw_r_cp_ud_dp_ERPEZFRSCQ5129K0D5PJ&ref_=cm_sw_r_cp_ud_dp_ERPEZFRSCQ5129K0D5PJ&social_share=cm_sw_r_cp_ud_dp_ERPEZFRSCQ5129K0D5PJ&skipTwisterOG=1
• https://www.audible.com/pd/Rule-23-Audiobook/B0D9HYRMFR?action_code=ASSGB149080119000H&share_location=pdp
• https://www.instagram.com/luba.shur/?hl=en
• https://www.tiktok.com/@luba.shur
• https://www.linkedin.com/in/luba-shur-7b73033a/  

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Discover the inspiring journeys of Calyssa Zellars Kya Henley, founders of Saint Park Law, on this episode of the Jabot Podcast! Learn how these two dynamic lawyers navigated non-linear career paths, left big law to start their own firm, and stayed true to their mission. Gain insights into their unique approach to crisis management and investigations, the importance of intentional practice, and how they’ve blended personal passion with professional excellence. Don’t miss this episode for a fresh take on entrepreneurship in law!

Highlights

• Why law school? Personal motivations for impactful careers.
• Career transition: Becoming civil rights attorneys.
• Non-linear career path: From Detroit Lions to PR.
• Public defender experience: Passion fueled by Trayvon Martin case.
• Entrepreneurship: Founding Saint Park Law.
• Building a mission: Aligning skills with passion.
• Identity in firm name: Personal maternal lineage inspiration.
• Balancing work and life: Strategies for managing mental health.
• Advice for new lawyers: “No one knows you better than you.”
• Encouragement to be pioneers: Charting unique career paths.

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Links and Resources

• https://www.saintparklaw.com/
• https://www.instagram.com/saintparklaw/
• https://www.linkedin.com/company/saint-park-llp/about/  

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Join Kathryn Rubino as she chats with Harvard Law grad and Juris Education admissions counselor Calandra Almond. Discover how to navigate law school admissions, balance career goals, and set realistic expectations. Almond’s personal journey offers invaluable insights—don’t miss out!

Highlights

• Personal law school journey.
• Considering what you want your life to look like.
• Admissions counseling and career mistakes.
• Making realistic decisions about law school.
• The importance of the LSAT.
• Diversity in law school admissions and potential impacts.
• Be true to yourself and what you want out of life.

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Links and Resources https://lc.cx/GMIpZj  https://www.linkedin.com/in/calandra-almond  

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In this episode, Kathryn chats with Lori Duff, author of the upcoming book, “Devil’s Defense.” Lori shares candid insights about her accidental journey into law, her love for trial work, and the striking realism that underpins her novel. Discover her struggles balancing a legal career with writing, the hilarious challenges of introducing technology to courts during COVID, and her advice for lawyers with creative passions. This episode offers a compelling portrait of a small-town lawyer’s life and the passion driving her literary journey.

Highlights

• Lori’s decision to go to law school.
• The connection between performance and trial work.
• Building a practice in a small town.
• Incorporating small-town southern life in “Devil’s Defense.”
• Realistic portrayal of legal practice in the book.
• Impact of politician’s confirmation hearing on Lori’s writing.
• Developing the “Fisher At Law” series.
• Balancing writing with legal practice.
• Impact of COVID on legal practice and Lori’s role in the state-level response.
• Frustrations with technology adoption in the legal field.
• Technology’s lasting implications in law post-COVID.
• Navigating from conception to publication as an author.
• Importance of finding time for personal passions.

Episode Resources

• https://www.loriduffwrites.com/
• https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Devils-Defense/Lori-B-Duff/9781647427368 

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Dive into The Jabot podcast with Kathryn Rubino featuring Holly J. Moore, founder of Moore Family Law! Holly shares her journey from soul-sucking construction defect cases to the emotionally charged world of family law. Learn about the realities, challenges, and rewards of starting your own firm. Find out why family law “finds you” and get inspired by her tips for aspiring lawyers. Don’t miss this engaging and honest conversation—perfect for anyone interested in the human aspect of legal practice.

Highlights

• Why pursue law? Early inspiration.
• “You don’t find family law, family law finds you.”
• Shift from construction law to family law.
• Managing high stakes and emotional cases.
• The balance between personal and professional life.
• Growing a solo practice and team.
• Hiring a coaching company for business growth.
• Memorable case with a significant age gap.
• Common misconceptions about family law from fellow lawyers.
• The argument against eliminating no-fault divorce.

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Kathryn Rubino chats with Jiadai Lin, author and winner of the Sandra Carpenter Prize for Creative Nonfiction. Discover Jiadai’s journey from big law to heartfelt storytelling, balancing law and literature with grace. Don’t miss this inspiring conversation on following your true passion!

Highlights

• The straightforwardness of a legal career versus the uncertainty of a writing career.
• Jiadai’s compartmentalization of her law career and writing career.
• The emotional impact and challenges of leaving Big Law to pursue writing.
• The struggle and eventual acceptance of failures in her early writing career.
• The flexibility and benefits of working at a startup law firm while writing.
• The significant impact of winning the Sandra Carpenter Prize.
• The deep personal nature of her writing and its vulnerability.
• The role of memory and its imperfection in writing memoirs.
• Advice for lawyers harboring creative ambitions.
• The importance of giving oneself permission to pursue passions.

Links and Resourceshttps://www.scmemorialfund.com/ 

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Join host Kathryn Rubino who chats with Rachel Elkin, Pro Bono Counsel at Haynes Boone. Discover Rachel’s journey from a family of lawyers to championing public interest work and navigating her unexpected transition into Big Law. Gain insights on the rewarding and challenging aspects of pro bono work and how it shapes careers and communities. A must-listen for legal enthusiasts and those inspired by impactful lawyering.

Highlights

• Why Rachel Elkin went to law school.
• First exposure to public interest law.
• Importance of law school clinics.
• Key mentorship in law school.
• How Rachel secured her first nonprofit job.
• Transitioning from nonprofit to big law.
• Role and importance of a pro bono counsel.
• Managing pro bono case selection.
• Balancing billable hours with pro bono work.
• Rachel’s long-term goals for the firm’s pro bono program.

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