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The Jabot episodes

  • Lawyering With Empathy with Farid Yaghoubtil - Episode 214

    In this episode, host Kathryn Rubino chats with Farid Yaghoubtil, founding partner of DTLA Law Group. Discover Farid's journey from fleeing Iran to empowering the underrepresented through law. His passion for justice, client-focused approach, and the challenges of balancing ideals with firm management make it a must-listen for aspiring lawyers and entrepreneurs. Tune in to catch Farid's inspiring stories and insightful advice on staying true to your mission.

    Episode Highlights

    • Decision to pursue law due to childhood injustice.

    • Balancing ideals and legal system realities.

    • Motivation behind starting a law firm.

    • Challenges of running a legal business.

    • Importance of organization and hiring in business success.

    • Leading with empathy in law practice.

    • Avoiding burnout through gratitude and meaningful connections.

    • Inspiring story: Helping a child in a lead exposure case.

    • The value of listening to clients.

    • A personal approach over transactional lawyering.

    • Building client relationships for sustained growth.

    Episode Sponsored By

    • https://www.lexisnexis.com/lexisplus

    Links and Resources

    • https://downtownlalaw.com/attorney-profiles/farid-yaghoubtil/

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    20 min
  • Everyone's Law School Journey Is Unique with Victoria Inoyo - Episode 213

    In this episode, Kathryn Rubino chats with Victoria Inoyo, director of advising at Juris Education. Dive into the world of law school applications with insights on choosing the right path, weighing the cost, and finding a career that fits you. Victoria shares personal experiences, highlighting how exposure to diverse perspectives can enhance your law school journey. A must-listen for prospective law students!

    Episode Highlights

    • Curiosity's Role in Choosing Law.

    • Importance of Talking to Lawyers Pre-Law School.

    • Rising Law School Costs and Job Decisions.

    • Law School Rankings vs. Personal Goals.

    • Location's Impact on Law Career.

    • Dispelling Misconceptions: GPA & Test Scores.

    • Beyond Law: Alternative Careers with a JD.

    • Importance of Exposure to Diverse Perspectives.

    • Encouraging Exploration of Law Paths.

    Episode Sponsored By

    • https://www.lexisnexis.com/lexisplus

    Links and Resources

    • https://www.juriseducation.com/team/victoria-inoyo

    • https://www.linkedin.com/in/victoria-inoyo/

    • https://victoriainoyo.com/

    • [email protected]

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    24 min
  • Democracy Has A Mass Incarceration Problem with Judith Resnik - Episode 212

    Join host Kathryn Rubino on The Jabot podcast with Yale Law's Judith Resnik. Discover how historical detention practices challenge democracy today. Explore her new book, "Impermissible Punishments," for insights on humane reforms. A thought-provoking must-listen!

    Episode Highlights

    • Discussion of upcoming book, "Impermissible Punishments"

    • Journey to Academia: From Law School to Professor

    • Prison as a Social Service: Complexities and Paradoxes

    • Judicial Debate on the Permissibility of Whipping in Prisons

    • Historical Roots: The League of Nations and Prison Standards

    • Evolution of Prisoners' Rights and Dignity

    • Importance of Recognizing Incarcerated as Rights Bearers

    • Global Perspective: Common Problems in Prisons Worldwide

    • The Cost of Maintaining the Current Prison System

    • Inhumane Practices and the Need for Solid Lines on Punishments

    • Changing Nature: Prison is a Construct, Not a Standard

    • Solitary Confinement: A Physical and Emotional Burden

    Episode Sponsored By

    • https://www.lexisnexis.com/lexisplus

    Links and Resources

    • https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/I/bo243487113.html

    • https://impermissiblepunishments.law.yale.edu/

    • [email protected]

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    26 min
  • You Can Walk Away From Biglaw And Have The Career Of Your Dreams with Marc Brown - Episode 211

    In this episode, host Kathryn Rubino chats with Marc Brown, a dynamic attorney and Big Dave's Cheesesteaks franchise owner. Marc opens up about his non-linear career path from Biglaw to founding his own successful firm, sharing insights on the fulfilling shift to plaintiff's work and the challenges of running a business. Aspiring lawyers and entrepreneurs alike will find inspiration in Marc's journey of pursuing passion over convention and learning to balance career and life. Tune in for a mix of legal wisdom and the secret to a perfect cheesesteak!.

    Episode Highlights

    • Childhood dream of becoming a lawyer

    • Reality vs. TV portrayal of law work

    • Unplanned career path: Starting a law firm

    • Shift from Biglaw to plaintiff's work

    • Dealing with emotionally challenging cases

    • Transition to owning a law firm

    • Lessons from running a personal injury firm

    • Challenges of starting a new practice

    • Importance of experience before starting a firm

    • Franchise opportunity with Big Dave's

    • Balancing multiple business ventures

    • Career highlight: Marc Brown Legal Minute

    • Learning from career lows and losses

    Episode Sponsored By

    • https://www.lexisnexis.com/lexisplus

    Links and Resources

    • https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcusjbrown/

    • https://www.marcbrownlawfirm.com/

    • https://www.bigdavesway.com/

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    22 min
  • Can AI Really Predict If You're Going To Win Your Case? with Sarah Johansson - Episode 210

    In this episode of The Jabot Podcast, host Kathryn Rubino chats with Sarah Johansson, the Legal Product Lead at Theo Ai, about the intersection of legal tech and AI. Sarah shares her journey from law to tech and explains how Theo Ai predicts lawsuit outcomes using data and intelligent agents. This episode dives into AI's role in litigation, addressing skepticism, biases, and the human element of lawyering. Essential listening for anyone curious about the future of law and technology's growing impact!

    Episode Highlights

    • Passion for problem solving in law.

    • Transition from litigation to tech.

    • Predicting lawsuit outcomes with AI.

    • Balancing AI's value and risks in law.

    • Addressing bias in legal AI models.

    • Importance of quality inputs in AI.

    • Using AI in business decision-making.

    • Potential of AI in appellate processes.

    • AI supporting attorneys in meaningful changes.

    Episode Sponsored By

    • https://www.lexisnexis.com/lexisplus

    Links and Resources

    • https://theoai.ai/

    • https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarah-johansson/

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    23 min
  • Debrief: What It's REALLY Like To Open Your Own Firm with Margot Hoppin

    Tune in to the latest Jabot episode as host Kathryn Rubino chats with Margot Hoppin, co-founder of Hoppin Grinsell. Discover the challenges and victories of starting a law firm post- COVID, the impact of AI in law, and the real deal on work-life balance.

    Highlights

    • Transition from Biglaw to founding a boutique firm.

    • Trend of starting new firms post-COVID.

    • Time-tracking challenges of running a law firm.

    • Growth milestone: hiring and team development.

    • Balancing work demands with personal time-off goals.

    • Importance of cash flow management in a small firm.

    • Key learnings: experience in running a law firm.

    • Impact of AI on traditional law firm structures.

    • Maintaining firm culture during growth.

    • Benefits of transparency in a smaller law firm.

    • Valuing open communication and addressing knowledge gaps.

    Episode Sponsored By

    • https://www.lexisnexis.com/lexisplus

    Links and Resources

    • https://www.hoppingrinsell.com/team/margot-hoppin

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    25 min
  • Lawyer Turned Novelist Pens The Perfect Summer Read with Audrey Ingram - Episode 208

    Listen to The Jabot podcast as Kathryn Rubino interviews attorney and author Audrey Ingram, who shares her compelling transition from a law career to writing. Explore Audrey's journey, motherhood's role in her life choices, and get a glimpse of her new novel, "The Summer We Ran," about first loves turned political rivals. A must-listen for aspiring writers and anyone seeking inspiration to chase their dreams!

    Highlights

    • Transition from Big Law to Novel Writing

    • Fulfillment in Motherhood

    • Navigating Guilt and Finding Balance

    • Inspiration for Debut Novel

    • Elements of an Ideal Summer Beach Read

    • Creativity and Storytelling Sources

    • Crafting Imperfect Characters

    • Integrating Legal Skills in Writing

    • Balancing Creative and Business Aspects in Writing

    Episode Sponsored By

    • https://www.lexisnexis.com/lexisplus

    Links and Resources

    • https://www.instagram.com/audreyingramwrites/?hl=en

    • https://www.instagram.com/zibbypublishing/?hl=en

    • https://audreyingramwrites.com/

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    27 min
  • Law Professor On Why It's More Important Than Ever To Confront Racism with Susan Sturm - Episode 207

    Join host Kathryn Rubino on the Jabot Podcast as she sits down with Columbia Law School's Susan Sturm to discuss her compelling new book, "What Might Be." Susan shares her passion for social justice and explores the power of reimagining systems for a more equitable future. This episode is a must-listen for those eager to understand the paradoxes in social justice work and how to navigate them for impactful change.

    Highlights

    • Seeds of the book from childhood experiences.

    • Contradiction seen in the law from day one.

    • Building environments for full participation.

    • Academia as a path for social justice.

    • The power of ideas in driving change.

    • What law is according to Robert Cover.

    • Imagining systems for social justice.

    • Creating micro spaces of justice now.

    • Three paradoxes in addressing racism.

    • Navigating racial salience paradox.

    • Building multiracial collaborations.

    • The challenge and necessity of hope.

    • Avoiding internal immigration.

    Episode Sponsored By

    • https://www.lexisnexis.com/lexisplus

    Links and Resources

    • https://whatmightbe.me/

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    26 min
  • Building A Firm That's Better Than Biglaw with Laurice Rutledge Lambert and Jennifer Whitton - Episode 206

    Join host Kathryn Rubino with guests Laurice Rutledge Lambert and Jennifer Whitton. Discover their unique journey from Big Law to founding a boutique health law firm. Explore their mission-driven approach and the challenges they face in healthcare regulation. Perfect for aspiring entrepreneurs and legal enthusiasts

    Highlights

    • Jennifer's journey: from international relations to law.

    • Laurice's shift from medicine ambitions to health law.

    • Misconceptions about lawyers and real pathway insights.

    • Importance of persistence in career focus.

    • Jennifer's mentor-driven transition to actual healthcare law.

    • Challenges and implications of starting their own firm.

    • Big law vs. entrepreneurship: Laurice's turning point.

    • Values-driven alignment in forming their firm.

    • Organic growth and values attract talent.

    • Overcoming misconceptions about small firms lacking sophistication.

    • Team strength and client faith as major successes.

    • Current challenges and future of health care law.

    Episode Sponsored By

    • https://www.lexisnexis.com/lexisplus

    Links and Resources

    • Jennifer's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenniferpwhitton/

    • Laurice's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauricelambert/

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    26 min
  • A Look At How The Law Fails Patients with Anna Kirkland - Episode 205

    Tune into The Jabot Podcast for a must-listen episode with Anna Kirkland, a professor at the University of Michigan. Discover how her new book reveals the complexities and failures of discrimination law in healthcare. Unpack how civil rights shape healthcare access, and learn about the impact of algorithmic bias. Essential for those keen on healthcare policies and rights protections. Don't miss it!

    Highlights

    • Anna's academic journey: from law school to academia

    • The intersection of civil rights and healthcare in Kirkland's book

    • Historical context: Transgender rights and public opinion

    • Complexities of implementing nondiscrimination in healthcare

    • Supreme Court involvement in gender-affirming care for youth

    • Medicare as a tool of civil rights enforcement in history

    • The role of rank-and-file employees in healthcare discrimination

    • Patient experience: legal vs. customer service approach

    • Challenges of addressing algorithmic discrimination in healthcare

    • Key issues in healthcare discrimination today

    Episode Sponsored By

    • https://www.lexisnexis.com/lexisplus

    Links and Resources

    • https://www.ucpress.edu/books/health-care-civil-rights/paper

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    29 min

About The Jabot

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We are an offshoot of the Above the Law legal blog. But we are focused on the challenges women, people of color, LGBTQIA, and other diverse populations face in the legal industry.

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